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OneMan1Army
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Topic: Greatest Heavyweight Boxer Ever? Posted: 17 Jun 2011 at 9:09pm |
Rocky Marciano fought Joe Louis at Joe's end of his career (his last fight). It's just like saying Larry Holmes beat Muhammad Ali end of Ali's career. Same thing as Joe Calzaghe fought Roy Jones Jr. end of Roy's career. Fighting people that already past their prime consider waste of my time. Usually, younger fighters always beat old fighters; Well, except for Bernard Hopkins.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 2011 at 8:28pm |
much as I hate to say it I think Tyson would have won unless Lennox boxed him from behind his fearsome jab and tied him up. Tyson was a freak combining speed, power, craft and precision all channelled to perfection - and he was menacing too. When he beat Tyrell Biggs he could have finished him in the 2-3rd round but he smiled to the camera and said Biggs was screaming like a girl when he landed hooks to the body and he was enjoying himself!!! And I would have paid to see Lewis Vs Ridd**k Bowe - a real grudge match with Bowe losing by TKO in the later rounds.
@Marciano - he fought 2 greats Joe Louis and Ezzard Charles but yes both were long past their sell by dates. Like Tyson tho Rocky was fearless and punched like he had dynamite in his hands. He was also a dirty fighter - yea just like Iron Mike! He may not have been undefeated in any other era but imo he still would have been a champ - he was a force of nature.
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YINYANG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 7:17pm |
Greatest Ever: Muhammad Ali
Fight that I have always wanted to see: Mike Tyson Vs. Lennox Lewis in both their primes.
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SP61gTSupra
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2011 at 8:17am |
Fedor would win, againt them, all.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 5:53pm |
i didn't know you said it ive just heard it before. Marciano would take a hell of a beating then knock his opponent out. he hit there arms until they couldn't hold them up anymore then he would go for there head. he was one tough son of a biaaaatch.
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OneMan1Army
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 5:40pm |
The reason why I said Rocky Marciano never fought anyone great because Bert Sugar (The Boxing Historian) said it himself. |
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SIZZLE
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 5:01pm |
yea its hard to be called a fighter when no one will fight you i guess?
just like what Big Country did to Kimbo Slice and everyone else in the ultimate fighter. who would of thought he could do that? it may sound rediculious that BUTTERBEAN could but he was really badazz. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 4:50pm |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 4:48pm |
i believe at his best he would knock those guys out yes! he could take a hell of a punch and no one could take his punches. same way with Shaffer. thats why no one fought them. Ernie Shaffer was in Ali's time and he couldn't get a fight with anyone Tuna 4 real. no one wanted to risk there career.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 4:46pm |
and butterbean shouldnt even be called a boxer.. george foreman would stomp a hole in his ass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 4:46pm |
tyson in his prime was the most feared boxer of all time.. greatest carrer of all time? no. but id rather fight anyone then him
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 4:35pm |
oh c'mon syzygy.. you don't actually believe that, do you? you really think that butterbean is one of the best boxers who ever lived? he mostly fought 4 round boxing matches lol. he fought out of alabama too
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 4:28pm |
naw Tuna there's 2 fighters that everyone dodged Butterbean and Ernie Shaffer. Ernie Shaffer couldn't get a fight until he was an old man thats why you probably don't even know who he was. both of them had mad punching power. BUTTERBEAN was fat but he could fight! Rocky Marciano was undefeated his whole career but some say he never fought anyone great?
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 4:06pm |
tyson would rip him a new asshole
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 3:58pm |
BUTTERBEAN would knock out Ali or Tyson in a legit fight if they were all three in there prime!
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 1:23pm |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 12:39pm |
tyson would beat your ass if he read that!
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 12:36pm |
Ali no question! how can peeps put tyson over ali completely retarded= yeah tyson was a beast for a few years but name me more than 2 world class fighters he boxed in that period? if it was a street fight yeah tyson every time imo but boxing is a technical sport n tyson just had ferocious knockout power but even in his prime he couldn't hold punches n his so far from the best ever boxer its unreal!
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 12:22pm |
it makes it more competitive.. i like that there are 4 belts |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 12:19pm |
That's true, but there's no reason to have four belts to be the real champion.
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TuNA FISh
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 12:02pm |
yeah but everyone knows that the real champion will have all 4 belts.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 11:15am |
Not necessary. There are some weight divisions who doesn't have the ring mazagine. The ring mazagine is usually vacant. Now, there are real champions even though they don't have the ring mazagine. The top contenders or known as the best fighters in that division with WBC, WBO, WBA & IBF belts the real champs. In the boxing industry, it's corrupted. There are too many belts. The main belt I know by far is ring mazagine. Like I said before, the ring mazagine shows that your the linear champion in that division. Since the ring mazagine isn't popular for some reason, they use alphabet belts to determine who the champion. It could be 4 champions in one division. Does that sound right? Not to me. Boxing needs to go back in their roots when there use to had one championship belt: Ring Mazagine. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 10:36am |
BUTTERBEAN
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 2010 at 9:54am |
wait.. are you telling me no one is the real champion until they have a belt from some magazine?
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 7:34pm |
The ring magazine is a red/white/blue belt which describes as the real champion. Basically whoever has the ring magazine belt is the linear champion. No matter how many alphabet belts you got such as WBC, WBO, IBF, WBA, etc, your not the real champion without the ring magazine belt. Other boxers have title belts for being a top fighter and make career high paychecks, but ring magazine is the truth belt which overcome all belts.
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