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Iuckshot
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Topic: download music Posted: 10 Oct 2011 at 4:44am |
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I was just saying that 'everyone does it' isnt a good reason lol I missed pinnacles post.. I can imagine how everyone will want to take a cut from sales, I just want to know how an artist would get ever get enough of a backing if not for those who want a cut - a beginning band might only be able to get gigs in cafes where no one will remember their name anyway, and they likely wont sell much merchandise until people know their names either A band can definitely gain popularity through downloads, but how many people will download or even come across bands theyve never heard (anything good) about? Surely they need some backing? |
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Darkn3ss
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2011 at 4:26am | ||
And also ^
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2011 at 4:25am | ||
Also ^
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Darkn3ss
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Oct 2011 at 4:25am | ||
Come on now lol. You understand what I'm trying to tell. I'm just saying that I don't care about downloading music/movies/software. Everybody does it, so why should you that one unique snowflake buying their music? If you do, thats great. God will surely reward you by turning you into you into a unicorn next life.... Just saying. |
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Pinnacle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2011 at 11:01am | ||
Artists don't make much from music sales. Never have, never will. The production/publishing companies take that money. Artists make their money off tours and merchandise sales. Therefore, downloading music doesn't hurt the artist. In fact there are many studies that suggest that illegal downloads have helped a lot of artists regarding their popularity and audience base. Without file sharing services, their audience would be limited to people who buy CDs and radio airplay.
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2011 at 7:44am | ||
Lil Wayne is hardly the starting artist though, who actually needs an income to sustain doing any shows. I doubt an artist will get any backing to do a show if he doesn't sell music - who would sponsor someone who hasn't proved he can sell anything?
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OneMan1Army
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 2011 at 12:01am | ||
Most artists who make mixtapes usually give out a free CD. Yes, a free CD. Meaning download it. The cool thing about it is, the artist knows he/she will get their money back by doing shows and tours. They average around 20K to 50K; Or even higher.
Now for an album, yes it is wrong to download there whole CD, but most people don't care. Hell, Lil Wayne said, "Shout out to every DJ, bootleggers, I made histor-y anyway" meaning you can download my sh*t, but im still making cake. |
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phhiLLN
Team Devil Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Location: Ohio-US Online Status: Offline Posts: 2145 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 11:22pm | ||
getting your car jacked is controllable? maybe in europe lol
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 8:46pm | ||
If I learned anything from movies, you can't secure a car at all :x
Also, what would you say about killing people then? xD |
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Darkn3ss
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 8:33pm | ||
All artists who dont give performances is their own CHOICE. Then they indeed would have more people downloading their music then buying it and don't earn sh1t. And it doesn't sound as if 70% stole cars who would care.... lol... Stealing cars is a CONTROLLABLE. By locking your car or strengthen your windows lol get an alarm. Downloading music is UNSTOPPABLE. Its everywhere. And If you don't do it, thats very good :) continue it, but 10 others WILL do it. Same could happen with the cars lol. But that can be controlled. |
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 4:13pm | ||
I don't know about a lot of people whose aspiration is to be a world-wide known wallpaper-maker though :x
Who quit their jobs to make wallpapers I guess I don't mind supporting bands/artists who make stuff I like, to make it more feasible for them to make more |
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Phenethylamine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 4:03pm | ||
It'd be out of my control, so I'd choose not to care. (; Also, I don't think things such as rhapsody or whatever rican uses/paying a bit for unlimited music is that dumb. Itunes is dumb as shiÂt tho. Music is not on the level of video games, in terms of illegally downloading. If you pay for music, you might as well pay for pictures you save on your computers (; You know, someone worked hard creating that awesome wallpaper.....you should pay a dollar for it. |
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 3:55pm | ||
Lol that sounds like Well if 70% of people started stealing cars, who would care anyway? They're the majority, and appearantly it's easy enough. Also, not all artists like giving live performances, and I can definitely imagine a lot of artists who can't even afford to take a break from a job for concerts before their songs start selling. Downloading music also reminds me of downloading software/games.. There was this indie bundle where most of the profits went to a charity: the games were DRM free and you could choose your own price for it, starting from 0.01$; 90% of people still pirated it. |
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puertoRICAN
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 3:38pm | ||
i only go out and buy albums from people i am a fan of, otherwise, Youtube is fine for me
im also using spotify now, 10 bucks a month, almost any song in high quality, not a bad deal |
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Watch in 720P....duh |
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Darkn3ss
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 3:31pm | ||
*downloads games and downloads music*and IDC. because everybody is downloading music nowadays.
Who even buys an album? Musicians already know that their music will be downloaded more then albums are bought. For the artists themselves: Just increase the number of concerts they give and raise the entry fee (around 30 bucks entry fee) and everybody is happy and still has money. Like for example, Excision (dubstep) knows his albums are downloaded more then bought, but his concerts are so sick.. there are outsold every time he comes somewhere. People would even pay more money to see him.
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Sephiroth_V7
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:55pm | ||
That money gets split so much though that they have to sell a **** load. Yes obviously the artist benefits the most from it but its the little guy that counts. How would you like it if i stole from where you work and you got a pay cut because of it? Just my opinion
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:48pm | ||
Lol thing is, out of everyone posting here, so far 2 ppl said they pay for their albums :o
That adds up |
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Phenethylamine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:47pm | ||
meh, i have no conscience.....even though deep down I know they're going bankrupt without my 1$ ;-;!!!!!!!!!
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Sephiroth_V7
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:43pm | ||
Well i'd rather support other industries instead of robbing them, but to each their own i guess.
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Phenethylamine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:40pm | ||
wut? I just choose NOT to spend my money in stupid places (: Big affect or not, stupid purchase is stupid O:
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Sephiroth_V7
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:36pm | ||
Smart enough as in can't afford to? Doesn't seem to affect me too much. ;) Bring it mother fvcker hahaha
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:35pm | ||
Pay 60 dollar for a mediocre 8 hour game vs a few dollars for an album I'll listen for hours
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Phenethylamine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:31pm | ||
some of us are smart enough with our money not to spend $1 on a 3 minute mp3 file :3
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:28pm | ||
Nowadays I just download music to try it out and buy it if I like it enough
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Sephiroth_V7
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 1:22pm | ||
Some of us have money :S
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