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    Posted: 20 Mar 2012 at 2:04am

My internet speed results are :

upload speed:0.52 kbps
download speed:1.96 kbps

i check my internet speed from this site http://www.scanmyspeed.com/  , here it gives the best & accurate results for my internet speed test!!!!
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I'm back and my system is running smoother then shakiras' as$!! But i have noticed i've been getting bounced out of psn lately. Still have internet when i get kicked off, so maybe a psn thing??? Anyone else getting kicked off???
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Just got service going!! @ 40/5!!!   Time to take her out for a test drive!! Will report later.
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I think you threatened the network engineer Corey...
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Same provider, different apartment complex, higher speed I guess
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Nah just different apartment complex.

Same provider, different apartment, better speed? Wait, whats going on here?
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Nah just different apartment complex.
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I know thats what im saying.

Did you switch ISP's or just held a knife to your networking engineer saying:
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I know thats what im saying.
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i went from 3 mb/s upload to 33 mb/s upload at my new apartment and it has showed tremendous change online for me.




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i went from 3 mb/s upload to 33 mb/s upload at my new apartment and it has showed tremendous change online for me.



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Nah upload speed helps a LOT. trust me I use to have an even trashier connection.
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and actually bandwidth does affect your ping Geek
 
What are you pinging?
i told you in other post what i ping now but when i was on sh!t gear and on dsl i would ping 56 or so to chicago, thats around 240miles away, but with cable and sh!t gear i was about the same, after i got better gear i ping around 16 to 32 to chicago and average 56 to newyork (around 1000miles away).  i know that distance doesnt always determine your ping as well but i am MCP MTA certified and i go to school for networking and server administrating. i know that type of ISP GEAR AND SETUP determines over all proformance no matter what..  like i said in other post.. you could have 100mb download but 
sh!t gear and it will equil sh!t net overall bottom line.Geek
 
I meant what are you ping to? Not your rate. The point I was making is that pinging different servers will result in different ping rates. Bandwidth is only a small part of the equation, which your point is proving. I think we are arguing for the same thing only from different directions.
 
The point I was makming earlier is that people believe that if they have more bandwidth, their ping rates to gaming servers will lower. Not necessarily true. There is a point of diminishing returns on higher bandwidth equalling lower ping rates. As long as a user's bandwidth is larger than the packet sizes, there are no restriction causes by the internet connection. Higher ping resulting from that situation means there is something else at play which is causing higher ping, as you have explained.
 
Simply put, a 100MB download/100MB upload bandwidth would do nothing special for a gamer unless they are sending packets of information that are 100MB or less, which is never the case in gaming.
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and actually bandwidth does affect your ping Geek
 
What are you pinging?
i told you in other post what i ping now but when i was on sh!t gear and on dsl i would ping 56 or so to chicago, thats around 240miles away, but with cable and sh!t gear i was about the same, after i got better gear i ping around 16 to 32 to chicago and average 56 to newyork (around 1000miles away).  i know that distance doesnt always determine your ping as well but i am MCP MTA certified and i go to school for networking and server administrating. i know that type of ISP GEAR AND SETUP determines over all proformance no matter what..  like i said in other post.. you could have 100mb download but 
sh!t gear and it will equil sh!t net overall bottom line.Geek
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Originally posted by XxXDEATHXxX101

and actually bandwidth does affect your ping Geek
 
What are you pinging?
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and actually bandwidth does affect your ping Geek
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For you guys stuck playing wirelessly, I've had great results with these:



You'll get far better performance with this than you will wirelessly.  PS3 max connection is wireless "G".  There is no benefit from "N".  If you can find a reasonably old router with MIMO, that will give you the best "G" speeds.

The only issue I found was a room far from the router that was behind a GFCI device.  Apparently current building codes require all bedrooms to have Ground Fault protectors.  I solved that by wiring the entire house for network... post condtruction Dead
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SWEET!!! When I run SpeedTest it's usally around 15.
 
That's the ping for the server running the speed test. Not what you'll get in game. Each server will have a different ping based on your connection to that particular server. The lower the ping means two things, you're close to the server your are connecting to and the server and your bandwidth are minimally restricted when communicating.
 
You can have a .5MB download bandwidth and still achieve those ping levels.
thanks. way to burst my bubble, lol.
 
Not trying to burst your bubble. The servers that are used for gaming are usually junk. That is why people have ping rate issues. Not to mention that they are usually running 100s of servers from a single T-3 connection which screws the user connections. The gaming industry wants to sell disks with minimal post-sale support. That is why dedicated servers are usually not that great. They are usually cheap computers, not real servers. Your connection sounds awesome, but uping the Bandwidth won't see ping rate improvement at those levels.
again wifi and your gear will make a big difference in your ping as well.
with a cheap belkin surf n go router and my ps3 on wifi i would ping 56 to chicago
with my netgear with hardline connection i ping anywhere from 16 to 32 and thats at least 240miles from my house, hell i even ping average 56 from minnesota to newyork and im not sure how many miles that is but im sure in 1000plus
WiFi and your gear effect ping, not because of your bandwidth, but because they are restrictive appliances. The point of a router is to make multiple devices share a single connection. Therefore, a router that is less restrictive would lead to lowered ping. This has nothing to do with the effect caused by bandwidth (your internet connection). If you want to know what your true ping is to a specific server, plug your PS3 directly into the cable moden and check that way. That is the least restrictive check.
 
Also the recieving server has a play in this equation. So distance is not the greatest factor in ping. s h i t recieving server = s h i t response time.
 
Also Aqua's post is even moe money in explaining the factors invovled.
uh i didnt say that wifi and your gear effect your ping because of bandwidth so?  i said sh!t gear will produce sh!tter results in speed and connection. 
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I live just outside of Dallas. My UT3 server was based in Dallas. 14 hops!!!!! LOL. I only had 21 hops to the server I leased in Atlanta. Damn ISPs.
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A note on wireless...

At one point I ran 4 UT3 servers wirelessly from my garage - all on the same box.  ISP bandwidth was 20/5.  Nobody had any idea they were wireless.  The box was set up for a 300Mb data stream at 5.8MHz, used QUAD Core P4 at 2.3GHz, 7,200 RPM WD Scorpio Blue Drives in RAID 10 configuration, 750W power supply and had 16 Gb RAM.  IF SSD was available, I would have used them.  That would have been sweet.

I just broke this machine down and junked it last week.  I did keep the power supply and vid card though.
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SWEET!!! When I run SpeedTest it's usally around 15.
 
That's the ping for the server running the speed test. Not what you'll get in game. Each server will have a different ping based on your connection to that particular server. The lower the ping means two things, you're close to the server your are connecting to and the server and your bandwidth are minimally restricted when communicating.
 
You can have a .5MB download bandwidth and still achieve those ping levels.
thanks. way to burst my bubble, lol.
 
Not trying to burst your bubble. The servers that are used for gaming are usually junk. That is why people have ping rate issues. Not to mention that they are usually running 100s of servers from a single T-3 connection which screws the user connections. The gaming industry wants to sell disks with minimal post-sale support. That is why dedicated servers are usually not that great. They are usually cheap computers, not real servers. Your connection sounds awesome, but uping the Bandwidth won't see ping rate improvement at those levels.
again wifi and your gear will make a big difference in your ping as well.
with a cheap belkin surf n go router and my ps3 on wifi i would ping 56 to chicago
with my netgear with hardline connection i ping anywhere from 16 to 32 and thats at least 240miles from my house, hell i even ping average 56 from minnesota to newyork and im not sure how many miles that is but im sure in 1000plus
WiFi and your gear effect ping, not because of your bandwidth, but because they are restrictive appliances. The point of a router is to make multiple devices share a single connection. Therefore, a router that is less restrictive would lead to lowered ping. This has nothing to do with the effect caused by bandwidth (your internet connection). If you want to know what your true ping is to a specific server, plug your PS3 directly into the cable moden and check that way. That is the least restrictive check.
 
Also the recieving server has a play in this equation. So distance is not the greatest factor in ping. s h i t recieving server = s h i t response time.
 
Also Aqua's post is even moe money in explaining the factors invovled.
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Open a DOS Prompt (windows) and do a Trace Route to a known server (any server will do).  You'll see a list of hops and the speed between the hops.  It will look like this:

c:\tracert iamgaming.com

I'm on wireless so the first hop is to my router, which from where I'm sitting is 13Ms.  Next hop is to my cable modem, then I jump around in my ISP for 3 hops, then to the ISP for my ISP (none of them own the their own cable), then to the ISP for the server host, then to the server host, then to the router/switch rack the server is on and then finally to the server itself.

There can be and usually are; firewalls, load balancing servers, switches and routers that you jump through on one given test, which will not show up the next time you test it.
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SWEET!!! When I run SpeedTest it's usally around 15.
 
That's the ping for the server running the speed test. Not what you'll get in game. Each server will have a different ping based on your connection to that particular server. The lower the ping means two things, you're close to the server your are connecting to and the server and your bandwidth are minimally restricted when communicating.
 
You can have a .5MB download bandwidth and still achieve those ping levels.
thanks. way to burst my bubble, lol.
 
Not trying to burst your bubble. The servers that are used for gaming are usually junk. That is why people have ping rate issues. Not to mention that they are usually running 100s of servers from a single T-3 connection which screws the user connections. The gaming industry wants to sell disks with minimal post-sale support. That is why dedicated servers are usually not that great. They are usually cheap computers, not real servers. Your connection sounds awesome, but uping the Bandwidth won't see ping rate improvement at those levels.
again wifi and your gear will make a big difference in your ping as well.
with a cheap belkin surf n go router and my ps3 on wifi i would ping 56 to chicago
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ISP's do not ever give you equil up load as down load, it doesnt work that way.  its generaly around 1/5 to  1/3rd but your upload is not the matter of connecting to a server, upload is what determines your host or abililtly to send not recieve so for gaming it doesnt matter.  the equipment matters most imo cause if you have fast net but sh!t gear you will have sh!t net.

my internet is
25mb download
4.5mb upload
and i use a $300 netgear dual band router with bandwidth priority.
it can be set to only give bandwidth based on how you set it so you can prioritize what equipment get how much of you net. 
 
you would have to have a 100mb download to get 25mb upload
it probably is 2.5 up load which would make sense.
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