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SP61gTSupra ![]() Team TRU ![]() Splash with me! Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Location: Greenville Online Status: Offline Posts: 2974 |
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lolz, look up omni-max god, and see the contradictions!
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SIZZLE ![]() Team oOPS ![]() I'm your huckle berry Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1352 |
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i think some examples of wrong doing in the name of god is rediculous...were humans not devine beings...just because some things are done by people calling themselves Christians doesn't mean the religion itself is bad or fake.
people will always fail because its a standard that humans can't achieve...hence the need for forgiveness |
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you do know that they didn't find Jerusalem, right? they murdered thousands of people and took that whole area over.. when they attacked Jericho they literally killed every single living creature that lived within those walls. plus that was during the bronze age so they had no metal artifacts to leave behind XD |
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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some 2.5billion people are christian.. and there are 2billion are muslims.. apparently some doors were knocked down
but i do agree i believe religions are used to keep people in line.. but at the same time i think its just as sheepish for someone to not do something because they think its non conforming.
my beliefs on god arent restricted to the bible, or any church.. i consider myself christian and i believe in god.. all i believe god wants from me is to live my life.. when people use church as a means of controlling people or telling people how to live thats wrong.
for example.. islam has alot of things within that greatly benefit the male and control the female.. i dont think god would of wanted us to be enslaved by a religion. we are all equal..
christianity has its issues, alot of people bring up the crusades.. which alot of historians have diffrent takes on. Of course the roman catholic church and the priests molesting little boys is absolutely disgusting.
but not to go to far off topic or offend anyone to much.. but my point is i believe in religion.. but not enough to do any sort of cultish or cultural change on my life.. i find it very sad how muslims live their lives and it does make me question christianity as a cult aswell.. but in the end i dont see them as equals as far as how they operate.. most people that do are atheists that want to make chrisitianity look bad.
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BAIN ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 2009 Location: New Eden Online Status: Offline Posts: 3503 |
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Religion serves a purpose by keeping the general populations "in line". Without it we would have total chaos. The problem occurs when these religions get too powerful and try to impose their beliefs on others. I mean come on, if your religion is so great wouldn't people be knocking down the door to join?
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A-R_siIIyy ![]() AdReNaLiNe RuSh ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Location: necropolis Online Status: Offline Posts: 366 |
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its called urban legends
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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haha.. what was the show called? i would love to see this sounds hilarious
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A-R_siIIyy ![]() AdReNaLiNe RuSh ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Location: necropolis Online Status: Offline Posts: 366 |
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watched a funny ghost story on TV, this single old lady was hearing noises for months & stuff went missing like her tv,,turns out it was stoner teenagers living in her attic for MONTHS! lol
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you want lobster? huh,im thinkin burger king
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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well i agree.. religion should stay out of politics and public education.. the only thing i dont mind and i know alot of atheists hate it is the pledge of allegiance.. but for the most part i believe our country was founded on freedom of religion so no 1 religion should be part of our countries politics. and yes i know thats contradicting |
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SIZZLE ![]() Team oOPS ![]() I'm your huckle berry Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1352 |
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i know what you mean Deadaim..Christians do get a bad rap by atheists...they get annoyed instantly if anyony even mentions religion.
ive never had anyone pester me about religion either and ive lived in the bible belt my whole life. i do feel bad for the non believers though hell aint no joke |
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Hey_Look_its_Trendy ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 228 |
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I've never complained about being "victimized" or anything like that. I completely agree with you, a lot of Atheists do use that card quite a bit and it's rather annoying. My only complaints have been when religion enters into politics and public education, I have a huge problem with that. |
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i feel you, when you get a revelation what hell is you dont want anyone to go.
i personally feel its like this most people need help now, in other words what can Jesus do for me now?
heaven can wait and thankfully Christ came so we could have life (on earth) and have it more abundantly.
getting back to the first point God obviously loves everyone however theres 3 major points.
1. God is Love.
2. God is Holy.
3. God has integrity.
hell meant for the devil and his angels. (no one else)
they were the originators of sin they knew what they were doing as they had been with God.
man on the other hand was deceived.
Now why didnt God stop this if he knows all things?
God is integrity. God knows all things but not all things are ordained by Him.
If he interupted everytime someone was going to sin #1 he'd have a 24/7 job, #2 he would violate that being's will. His integrity allows for you to ultimately make the decision.
Would you want your spouse to love you because they wanted to?
Or would u rather them love you because they had no other choice.
If that were the case we'd all be robots.
Now the love of God provided redemption and a way of escape. But hes not going to force it upon anyone. He told the Jews to choose life and after Jesus he hopes we would choose life.
and ive never been bothered by Christians either but there those few that speak of nothing but hellfire.
yeaaaa He died so we could miss hell but its so much more than that.
in regards to Pascal"s wager i get what your saying but in order to "test" the faith u have to fully commit to it so yeah the doubts would screw u over.
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Hey_Look_its_Trendy ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 228 |
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Pascals wager is a complete cop out. Let's just assume for the sake of argument that God exists, if you truly believe in him and follow his teachings then good for you, you go to heaven. But, if I take the Pascals wager option and simply say I believe when deep down I have doubts, then whats the point? God is supposedly Omniscient and Omnipotent so therefore he would already know my true beliefs and that I was lying (which is also a sin). Pascal's wager simply doesn't work.
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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i dont wanna see non believers go to hell.. but i do think its annoying how some atheists act.. alot of them will act as if christians are beating down their doors and having some big effect on their life.
i am christian.. but i can honestly say outside of the times ive been to church and the few times a jehovas witness bothered me.. i cannot in my 27 years recall a christian ever bugging me about his religion or annoying me.. i dont know i guess its diffrent for people living in the bible belt but really i hate how atheists make themselves out to be victimized by christians
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ax412 ![]() Team iAM ![]() ![]() Duel Champ Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Cali Online Status: Offline Posts: 4833 |
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you have to see for yourself ultimately trendy. You will never know something works until you try it.
that being said, if I'm wrong than big whoop. I lived a moral life, I showed respect and honor to my fellow man. I lived a life of integrity. but to the unbeliever what happens? and truly it's not God sending that person to hell, it's their own decision. basically if you want to reason it's Pascal's wager |
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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well i didnt mean to put much emphasis on metal.. what i meant was i doubt they had much of anything, and arent jews shrewd? why would they leave something behind :)
in general though.. i dont think many artifacts or ancient supplies that are found in countries like egypt or anywhere for that matter are found where people travelled.. mostly just where they settled.
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Hey_Look_its_Trendy ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 228 |
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One of the most prevalent supplies left behind by ancient peoples is clay pottery and crude cooking utensils, which were almost never metal. |
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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i dont study all of this.. but i do recall the jews being very poor and having barely any posessions.. so i doubt they had many metal artifacts to leave behind that would have lasted 1000's of years to be discovered.. when they got to jerusalem they started to build.. and plenty of artifacts have been found in that area.
im no expert.. so i could be wrong
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religion is all about faith Bum..ive watched a quite a few programs where they research bible story's and look for facts.
there all interesting but they usually don't prove anything to my satisfaction. it don't matter though because im not a doubter in the first place. |
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Yeah, but everything they used to explain it turned everything into a natural occurrence rather than a biblical miracle, which defeats the purpose of the story and God's involvement in the first place. Also, there is zero record outside the bible of Jews ever being in Egypt and no Jewish artifacts have been found along their supposed route or in Egypt. They supposedly wandered the desert for 40 years, surely they would have left something behind. |
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Faith. Like every other religion has. The point where you have to go out on a limb. I saw something yesterday though. On some channel, It was about the exodus. The researchers, scientists, historians, etc..wanted to uncover the truth about the exodus and red sea. They did too, they had facts and reasons of how all that stuff could have happened. pretty cool documentary.
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SIZZLE ![]() Team oOPS ![]() I'm your huckle berry Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1352 |
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ghosts? if what people call ghosts exists there's no way of telling what they are. most people have probably seen and heard something they cant explain but that don't mean there is or isn't so called ghosts floating around us.
man still doesn't know very much if you consider how much there accualy is to know. Steven Hawkins's theory on black holes was thought to be fact by the scientific community until he proved himself wrong years later. a theory is just that..a theory. theory's are based on what scientists think are known facts. as soon as they find out one fact is wrong they haft to start all over. ive never had a so called ghost bite me on the azz...however i have been bitten on the azz by a dog so im pretty sure dogs exist lol |
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Not trying to be a d1ck, but what evidence do you have to support your claim that we WILL find out. There is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of a God or of life after death. My problem is that people seem to take pride in their ability to believe in something without any sort of evidence at all. How can you be proud of your own willingness to believe in anything? I just don't get it...... |
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