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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc ive said i can't prove GOD is real. and i havn't disagreed with anyones oppinion or debated anything. you assumed i don't know anything about science so i was just showing you i know a little about it. and no acording to scientists e=mc2 is relevent to absolutely everything period. Einstein thought that this was the case but he died before he could prove it. if e=mc2 is relevent to everything and GOD created everything then GOD must of created e=mc2 right? for the non believers i'll add if there is a GOD. ^^^ not an oppinion just a question.

gotta call you out on that one.. you definitely did defend christianity and of course you can't prove the existence of God..

Originally posted by TuNA FISh Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc ive said i can't prove GOD is real. and i havn't disagreed with anyones oppinion or debated anything. you assumed i don't know anything about science so i was just showing you i know a little about it. and no acording to scientists e=mc2 is relevent to absolutely everything period. Einstein thought that this was the case but he died before he could prove it. if e=mc2 is relevent to everything and GOD created everything then GOD must of created e=mc2 right? for the non believers i'll add if there is a GOD.^^^ not an oppinion just a question. gotta call you out on that one.. you definitely did defend christianity and of course you can't prove the existence of God..

i did say you'll haft to do better then that in one of my posts. but i wouldn't call that defending.

believe me if i was defending Christianity you'd be able to tell it for sure. and besides Christianity don't need me to defend it. it has GOD _-)

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc @ TX there's no way of knowing how we will be judged! there's no way of knowing what GOD forgives or considers unforgivable! the way i choose to think of Christianity is like this. GOD was fed up with all mankind and ready to forsake us all. Jesus believed there was still hope for us so GOD allowed him to take responsibility for all of us. it would be like your son bringing his friends in your house, and they keep acting like jerks until you say that you don't want them in your house ever again. but your son loves his friends and believes there not really bad, so he asks you to allow them to come in. you tell him ok but there totally his responsibility! meaning if they act like jerks he's the one your going to blame. Jesus's words is the only thing i focus on. not the whole bible because Jesus is Christianaty and anything before him was part of why he had to die on the cross. just look at his words and try to tell me he wasn't a very special being. we all fail in comparison! think of the time he lived in and what was going on at that time. Rome was occupying Isreal, yet he still preached, love thy enemy. its impossible to know the asnwer to your question TX. but your question is 1 of many that man has asked for thousands of years. i'll be 47 in November. ive been married for almost 27 years to a woman that everyone considers the best person theyve ever met. i have three great kids and 2 awesome grandkids. my grandson is next to me eating cookies and watching a starwars cartoon atm lol my granddaughter is still getting her beauty sleep xD i don't know what i ever did to deserve the love i get from my whole family but i must be doing something right? lol i believe i owe it all to Jesus Christ! if i die tomorrow i'll die a happy man thinking how i was blessed in life and hoping with all my heart to get the chance to meet and thank him for the life he has given me. its beyond me to prove that GOD and Jesus Christ exists! my point in what i just posted about my age and my family is this. ive lived my life the way i seen fit to live it without worry'ing about being perfect or how im viewed by others while treating others with respect and taking time for them when they need me for something. i don't judge anyone period! its not for me to judge someone! even though im never perfect or or even close, im treated special by most everyone i know 4 some reason? and i don't know why? i credit it to Jesus being in my life! i have made mistakes some big some small but doubting Jesus was never one of them. ive believed in him my whole life and too this day i havn't seen one negative thing thats come of it! im absolutly 100% positive that im a better man for it!!!

this is what i mean, syzygy. you have been defending your religion the entire time. you completely ignored the vids i posted too. don't know why... unless you're a scaredy cat :)

thats not defending Christianity lol but i don't see why it matters either way? i believe, you don't believe.

if GOD exists, your probably going to hell and i may be going with you who knows. if GOD doesn't exist, when we die thats the end of it.

Originally posted by oXxLunacyxXo Imean nothing just that my mother is stupid she is a rn in a cardiac heart unit i dont neccesarilly believe it but dont disbeil u all dont know. Scientist say religous people heal faster than non religous cause there brain is so one sided in there belief or something like that couple books about it where i use to live near wv they have snake handlers in jolo westvirginia sacrifice a goat what ever differnt strokes for differnt folks i just resented u calling my mother stupid cause she is in the group

Go get sober first, then edit your post please.

Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy Originally posted by TuNA FISh Originally posted by Blackfang one of my teachers tuna gave me his idea of creation. he's a physics teacher and what not. it was really interesting what he said and he's christian. idk if he's right but @ the end of the day how will we know unless we see it? not trying to be a d*** but it's the same thing over and over. it's always blind faith.. i know religion is fake so i'm not going to try to believe something that isn't real. sorry c'mon man this is fundamental stuff, u dont know u 'believe'. If u knew u could prove it conclusively right? Anyway i admire your conviction but your bias blinds u to the possibilities. Plz don't take other people's views as your own, assess for yourself. Like Phantaci said his teachers views were interesting - open mind. Hitler slaughtered 6 million Jewish people because of his doctrine. he didnt do it single handed, proly didnt kill 1 but everyone else followed blindly instead of questioning his belief for themselves. It may have been convenient but it was wrong! BTW the multiple universe theory doesn't disprove the existence of God, it proves that scientists are still unsure about space/time. It is feasible for God to be the creator of all things in heaven and earth - it mentions nothing about the universe in the bilbe afaik. And just because christians cannot prove that God exists it can be said that atheists cannot disprove the existence of God either. I would love to view the vids u posted but ive been busy and now im out of UK for 2 weeks as of today, i will c them when im back. The thread will b dead and gone by then but the info will be 'interesting' I know.

this debate has been going on for awhile now and i knew where phantaci was going with that so i told him i don't believe it. the whole intelligent design thing...

glad you want to watch the vids i posted! everyone else ignored them lol the facts in that video are strong

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc oh really and you know all of this how? see you make statements like that all the time. i don't make statements about GOD accept that i believe in him. no one knows anything for sure. not brilliant scientists, not doctors, not world leaders. but you said your college teacher taught you that religion is fake? that doesn't supprise me at all Tuna! well im sure glad everyone don't fall for that crap.

did i say my college teacher taught us religion is fake??? absolutely not.. we learned about history, syzygy.. we make up our own minds what we want to believe. you know what doesn't surprise me? that you ignore what i say and make up your own version.. must be a defense mechanism.

you should go back and read some of your posts.. you are basically trying to preach to everyone lol

i know you are trying to mock me when you say "brilliant scientists" but that's what they are (even though it sounds corny as hell). you really don't know too much about science because if you did then you would know that they are trying to move us forwards as a species.. i will admit that i don't know that much but i want to learn!

Originally posted by TuNA FISh Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc oh really and you know all of this how? see you make statements like that all the time. i don't make statements about GOD accept that i believe in him. no one knows anything for sure. not brilliant scientists, not doctors, not world leaders. but you said your college teacher taught you that religion is fake? that doesn't supprise me at all Tuna! well im sure glad everyone don't fall for that crap. did i say my college teacher taught us religion is fake??? absolutely not.. we learned about history, syzygy.. we make up our own minds what we want to believe. you know what doesn't surprise me? that you ignore what i say and make up your own version.. must be a defense mechanism.you should go back and read some of your posts.. you are basically trying to preach to everyone lol i know you are trying to mock me when you say "brilliant scientists" but that's what they are (even though it sounds corny as hell). you really don't know too much about science because if you did then you would know that they are trying to move us forwards as a species.. i will admit that i don't know that much but i want to learn!

was your college teacher Brilliant? he convinced you didn't he? a little time with him and your all down with GOD up with science and his version of history lol   atleast thats how it sounds Tuna

historical fact is another bullsh1t term! history is written by men and every single man who has ever lived on this earth is bias to an extent! im bias towards what i believe, aren't you? ofcourse you are! its part of the *HUMAN CONDITION*

your still pretty young Tuna and you'll see that there's a big difference in knoelledge and wisdom as you get older.

the term WELL READ is a good example. if a person reads alot and can retain what theyve read it makes them knowlledgable about what theyve read, BUT does it make them any wiser or smarter? and what if half of what they read is total bullsh1t in the first place?

i havn't been preaching at all! im just saying think for yourself and don't let me or any so called *Brilliant Person* ever absolutely convince you of anything. learn all you can then belive what you choose to believe!

Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington A deist believs there was a creator or a Prime Mover, but he does not intervene in our affairs. This is plausible.

I agree with that, although I still don't believe in god, if he's theistic or deisctic, cause it doesn't help me at all and cannot be proved. I cannot believe blindly. But I respect your beliefs. It's plausible.

Originally posted by oXxLunacyxXo Imean nothing just that my mother isnt stupid she is a rn in a cardiac heart unit i dont neccesarilly believe it but dont disbelieve u all dont know. Scientist say religous people heal faster than non religous cause there brain is so one sided in there belief or something like that couple books about it.. where i use to live near wv they have snake handlers in jolo westvirginia. sacrifice a goat what ever differnt strokes for differnt folks i just resented u calling my mother stupid cause she is in the group

Whoa, whoa, whoa give credit where credit is due, I called your mother stupid. Job title does not always indicate intelligence. As far as the whole "religious people heal faster" you should really read up on it before you say something like that (not that religious people are really inclined to do such a thing). People who are ill and know that they have a lot of support do tend to have speedier recovery because they feel they have something to live for. It's not a religious thing, religious people just have a habit of praising God for everything that goes well in life, but always fall back on the whole "god has a plan" or "god works in mysterious ways" when things go sour. Give thanks to modern medicine, not some supernatural entity.

I've been out of internet for the past few days so I apologize to all the morons on here that I haven't had the opportunity to smack down recently.

ive read lab results n book comparing athiest & religou u turd burgler