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    Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 2:47pm
Zeitgeist was a decent watch.  i seen it a while ago with a cross reference video done by a second party, and it said most of the things that was mentioned about the religion was spot on, but a few inconsistencies here and there.  But I remember back in middle school when the teachers had us sit in a circle and whisper a sentence into the person on your left and see how the sentence morphed by the time it go through 20 kids, I guess anything that was told back then has came a LONG way and changed alot, I'm sure.
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lol i didnt even watch the original videos pawweezy posted.. im lazy
Same.  lol
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lol i didnt even watch the original videos pawweezy posted.. im lazy
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i thought i was going to **** the thread with the vids i posted but everyone was too scared to watch them. oh well
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summerblink r4ped the sh1t out of this thread. good job
 
rather easy to understand his point, unless you are being an ignorant retard about the situation.
 
 
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Shaker n summerblink just a question have any of you studied anyithing like the subject, either religion or physics. Just wondering cause you seem to be well informed, I myself also read some stuff by Hawking, that stuff really makes it impossible to sleep. LOL Maybe it's just a hobby of yours.
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Can we speak french ? I would discuss with you guys but i can't.


speak french? hell i can't even speak proper english
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Originally posted by F.u.k-shaker

Albert Einstein was a retard! Max Planck is da man... Check out David Sereda's take on Mass not increasing beyond lightspeed... Very cool.
Edit: A singularity can, in theory exist on more that one level.. at the same time!
 
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YES Albert Einstein was a retard, just like me xD

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^are you purposely making **** up? because i think you are........ have you ever heard of Einstein?? anyways, of course theories are going to change from time to time... look at technology from the 40s to now.. if it wasn't for science we wouldn't be where we are today.
 
Yes I have heard of Einstein. Have you heard of Hawking? Which part is making **** up from your point of view?  You are missing my point if you think i'm dissing science or Einstein, that's not the point.
 
I think Kuhn's term "paradigm shift" says it all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift
 
Here's some examples from that article:
 

Some of the "classical cases" of Kuhnian paradigm shifts in science are:

 


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Albert Einstein was a retard! Max Planck is da man... Check out David Sereda's take on Mass not increasing beyond lightspeed... Very cool.
Edit: A singularity can, in theory exist on more that one level.. at the same time!
 
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Originally posted by summ3rblink

Originally posted by TuNA FISh

^are you purposely making **** up? because i think you are........ have you ever heard of Einstein?? anyways, of course theories are going to change from time to time... look at technology from the 40s to now.. if it wasn't for science we wouldn't be where we are today.
 
Yes I have heard of Einstein. Have you heard of Hawking? Which part is making **** up from your point of view?  You are missing my point if you think i'm dissing science or Einstein, that's not the point.
 
I think Kuhn's term "paradigm shift" says it all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift
 
Here's some examples from that article:
 

Some of the "classical cases" of Kuhnian paradigm shifts in science are:

 


What is this, the name game of scientists? Okay, have you ever heard of Francis Crick, Brian Greene, Lisa Randall, Leonard Susskind, Richard Feynman, etc?

You completely missed his point, he mentioned Einstein because his theories, which were published in the early 1900's, still hold today and have been tested to be accurate. Not every theory turns out to be 100% full proof, but thats why we have the scientific process. There's just certain things we cannot test for yet because we lack the technology. We can speculate about the way things work, as Einstein did, without having the available technology because we build upon what we already know to be true (or false).
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Oh at Paw, the video is completely useless of course speaking in tongues doesn't activate the speech center, because they don't think about what they're saying they just talk random things (not a language, which would affect the speech center of the brain). It affects other parts of the brain surely, one's that are already active. (Meaning you use less of your brain, thus it's stupid Tongue) 
Without saying anything about there being a god or not, speaking in tongues is just some people attempting to make themselves important, make them matter because their life is too boring. Listen to what they're saying, if you listen closely you will see they repeat certain sounds over and over.
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Originally posted by TuNA FISh

^are you purposely making **** up? because i think you are........ have you ever heard of Einstein?? anyways, of course theories are going to change from time to time... look at technology from the 40s to now.. if it wasn't for science we wouldn't be where we are today.
 
Yes I have heard of Einstein. Have you heard of Hawking? Which part is making **** up from your point of view?  You are missing my point if you think i'm dissing science or Einstein, that's not the point.
 
I think Kuhn's term "paradigm shift" says it all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift
 
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^are you purposely making **** up? because i think you are........ have you ever heard of Einstein?? anyways, of course theories are going to change from time to time... look at technology from the 40s to now.. if it wasn't for science we wouldn't be where we are today.
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

thats not defending Christianity lol but i don't see why it matters either way? i believe, you don't believe.

if GOD exists, your probably going to hell and i may be going with you who knows. if GOD doesn't exist, when we die thats the end of it.

 
I pondered that and I thought there could be even a third option:
God does exist but after our death, he still doesn't reveal him/herself to us.
Well, that's at least  the case between me and God today and for me it would seem
unfair to reveal him/herself AFTER I die. But yes, I do know what bible and hinduism state about that topic: human w a n t s to be separated from god and thus he won't reveal himself to us.
 
Ok, that was just  some speculation and not meant to be a serious statement  Smile
 
What you said before about science, was actually quite accurate.
 
If one looks how western science works it is like this:
 
1940 "now we know that this thing works like this"
1941 "last year we THOUGHT that this thing worked like that but now we KNOW that it works like THIS"
2009 "LOL those old scientist on 40's, they WERE so funny when they thought that thing was working THAT way! Now even a child KNOWS that it works THIS way!"
2010 "Well, our recent studies shows that this thing ACTUALLY works like THIS, not as we THOUGHT on 2009"
 
I know that scientists mainly work towards the welfare of humanity but these laws of physics etc. seem to change constantly. Maybe they should not be called as laws. Oh human arrogance, sigh LOL
 
As Lord Buddha said: Only permanent thing in life is change.
 
 
 
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i feel its important to to be open and respectful of other beliefs. i was raised in a christian home and was taught that world from day one. but as i grew up i started to realize that it was more important for me to have a more"simplified version of faith" so thats it folks my religion my way and its so liberating. the important thing is that you find what works for you. my great uncle was a priest and he said to me "nicholas, different faiths are like rivers that flow to the ocean" so basically dont get caught up in all the rhetoric enjoy the diversity of life . if its not affecting my life then do whatever gets you through cus it works for you and im happy for you
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look mothfvker im usin a controller im not gonna spell out $hit wen i can put this i rummage through sum stuff & look 4 it i didnt read whole book just skim through it good observation turd burgler
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ive read lab results n book comparing athiest & religou u turd burgler


Who were these studies conducted by? What books? Are they reputable? Specifics? Considering you have yet to formulate a sentence without a spelling error I seriously doubt you could make it through an entire book.
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what about modern miracles lik i no some 1 who had cancer didnt have any treatment church prayed on her poof no more cancer
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oh really and you know all of this how? see you make statements like that all the time. i don't make statements about GOD accept that i believe in him. no one knows anything for sure. not brilliant scientists, not doctors, not world leaders. but you said your college teacher taught you that religion is fake? that doesn't supprise me at all Tuna! well im sure glad everyone don't fall for that crap.
did i say my college teacher taught us religion is fake??? absolutely not.. we learned about history, syzygy.. we make up our own minds what we want to believe. you know what doesn't surprise me? that you ignore what i say and make up your own version.. must be a defense mechanism.you should go back and read some of your posts.. you are basically trying to preach to everyone lol i know you are trying to mock me when you say "brilliant scientists" but that's what they are (even though it sounds corny as hell). you really don't know too much about science because if you did then you would know that they are trying to move us forwards as a species.. i will admit that i don't know that much but i want to learn!


was your college teacher Brilliant? he convinced you didn't he? a little time with him and your all down with GOD up with science and his version of history lol   atleast thats how it sounds Tuna

historical fact is another bullsh1t term! history is written by men and every single man who has ever lived on this earth is bias to an extent! im bias towards what i believe, aren't you? ofcourse you are! its part of the *HUMAN CONDITION*

your still pretty young Tuna and you'll see that there's a big difference in knoelledge and wisdom as you get older.

the term WELL READ is a good example. if a person reads alot and can retain what theyve read it makes them knowlledgable about what theyve read, BUT does it make them any wiser or smarter? and what if half of what they read is total bullsh1t in the first place?

i havn't been preaching at all! im just saying think for yourself and don't let me or any so called *Brilliant Person* ever absolutely convince you of anything. learn all you can then belive what you choose to believe!






dude, i didn't say he was the one that made me not believe in religion lol. i starting thinking there wasn't a God when i was like 13 years old lol. i remember being 13 and watching a documentary about the universe on the science channel and it changed my life.. i totally stopped believing when i was around 16 and only admitted it when i was 17. i remember being in high school and reading Nietzsche and Carl Sagan and people being like wtf is that. my mother is a devout catholic and made me go to church every sunday until i was 18 years old! i just turned 21 this past may
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Imean nothing just that my mother isnt stupid she is a rn in a cardiac heart unit i dont neccesarilly believe it but dont disbelieve u all dont know. Scientist say religous people heal faster than non religous cause there brain is so one sided in there belief or something like that couple books about it.. where i use to live near wv they have snake handlers in jolo westvirginia. sacrifice a goat what ever differnt strokes for differnt folks i just resented u calling my mother stupid cause she is in the group


Whoa, whoa, whoa give credit where credit is due, I called your mother stupid. Job title does not always indicate intelligence. As far as the whole "religious people heal faster" you should really read up on it before you say something like that (not that religious people are really inclined to do such a thing). People who are ill and know that they have a lot of support do tend to have speedier recovery because they feel they have something to live for. It's not a religious thing, religious people just have a habit of praising God for everything that goes well in life, but always fall back on the whole "god has a plan" or "god works in mysterious ways" when things go sour. Give thanks to modern medicine, not some supernatural entity.

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