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    Posted: 05 Aug 2010 at 7:01pm
Tuna you should just enlighten us with your own thoughts, if you have any? i state my own thoughts not someone elses.

your ignorance is obvious to me because you misunderstand virtually everything you read from what ive seen.

why do you wait for someone else to post then respond? come on just throw us some your vast wisdom.

you just seem to be an empty person that enjoys being contradictive? if we say its daytime you'll probably argue that its really night.

i don't care to debate you about anything! just state your own oppinions.
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Holy **** that was easily the longest page of ignorance yet posted on this site. What kind of statement is "science isn't fact"? Science covers an extremely broad range so to say that science isn't fact is just flat out dumb, there's really no other way to describe that statement. Now is all of science fact, no, of course not, no one would ever make that claim. And to quote some moronic 17th century philosopher is a completely pathetic attempt at an argument. Science has proven many, many things. All of modern medicine arose from scientific studies (we wouldn't have vaccines, antibiotics, penicillin, etc.) and sure as hell not from the bible or any other ancient text. All the technology around you is a product of science, and we have recently been able to decode the human genome due to science. I could go on forever but my point is that I've never really seen someone post something so blatantly stupid.

Call us nerds or whatever makes you feel better about yourself, but certainly don't criticize something you don't understand or even bother to research. Believe what you want to believe, I have no problem with that, but don't make arguments you can't uphold and know absolutely nothing about.
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Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy

Holy **** that was easily the longest page of ignorance yet posted on this site. What kind of statement is "science isn't fact"? Science covers an extremely broad range so to say that science isn't fact is just flat out dumb, there's really no other way to describe that statement. Now is all of science fact, no, of course not, no one would ever make that claim. And to quote some moronic 17th century philosopher is a completely pathetic attempt at an argument. Science has proven many, many things. All of modern medicine arose from scientific studies (we wouldn't have vaccines, antibiotics, penicillin, etc.) and sure as hell not from the bible or any other ancient text. All the technology around you is a product of science, and we have recently been able to decode the human genome due to science. I could go on forever but my point is that I've never really seen someone post something so blatantly stupid.

Call us nerds or whatever makes you feel better about yourself, but certainly don't criticize something you don't understand or even bother to research. Believe what you want to believe, I have no problem with that, but don't make arguments you can't uphold and know absolutely nothing about.
 
you spent 20 minutes earlier writing a reply and never posted, you come on hours later and you still have no valid comeback to what i posted. noone is calling you a nerd to feel better.. i was talking about your morbid love for science.. professor fink kinda nerdy is what i meant. you have been spouting off about how science is unquestionable, and been proven wrong over and over. re-read what i posted, and the things i already mentioned and summerblink did aswell. sciencetific tests dont even give the same results in different areas of our own planet, let alone the universe.. they are subject to conditions and intertapatations and you are acting as if they are flawless and certain.. anyhow for someone as "smart" as you.. to waste 20 minutes in "writing reply" and post nothing and then come back hours later and have no rebuttal.. im surprised.
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yes i was going to write a reply but i got side tracked and left my computer and had to go to work before i could post, i don't really see why that matters. You still have yet to mention one single example, which is really no surprise because you seem sorely uninformed on anything regarding science. Both you and summer simply quoted philosophers, how exactly does that disprove anything?  I will restate for the thousandth time that I've never claimed that science is always right and 100% accurate, but a lot of things in science are very true. The laws of physics for example, and einsteins equation are UNIVERSAL, as in the work all across the universe. I cannot disprove something that is unfalsifiable, but I can put my trust into something that is testable and proven to work.
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Originally posted by Deadaim

Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy

Holy **** that was easily the longest page of ignorance yet posted on this site. What kind of statement is "science isn't fact"? Science covers an extremely broad range so to say that science isn't fact is just flat out dumb, there's really no other way to describe that statement. Now is all of science fact, no, of course not, no one would ever make that claim. And to quote some moronic 17th century philosopher is a completely pathetic attempt at an argument. Science has proven many, many things. All of modern medicine arose from scientific studies (we wouldn't have vaccines, antibiotics, penicillin, etc.) and sure as hell not from the bible or any other ancient text. All the technology around you is a product of science, and we have recently been able to decode the human genome due to science. I could go on forever but my point is that I've never really seen someone post something so blatantly stupid.

Call us nerds or whatever makes you feel better about yourself, but certainly don't criticize something you don't understand or even bother to research. Believe what you want to believe, I have no problem with that, but don't make arguments you can't uphold and know absolutely nothing about.
 
you spent 20 minutes earlier writing a reply and never posted, you come on hours later and you still have no valid comeback to what i posted. noone is calling you a nerd to feel better.. i was talking about your morbid love for science.. professor fink kinda nerdy is what i meant. you have been spouting off about how science is unquestionable, and been proven wrong over and over. re-read what i posted, and the things i already mentioned and summerblink did aswell. sciencetific tests dont even give the same results in different areas of our own planet, let alone the universe.. they are subject to conditions and intertapatations and you are acting as if they are flawless and certain.. anyhow for someone as "smart" as you.. to waste 20 minutes in "writing reply" and post nothing and then come back hours later and have no rebuttal.. im surprised.
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Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy

yes i was going to write a reply but i got side tracked and left my computer and had to go to work before i could post, i don't really see why that matters. You still have yet to mention one single example, which is really no surprise because you seem sorely uninformed on anything regarding science. Both you and summer simply quoted philosophers, how exactly does that disprove anything?  I will restate for the thousandth time that I've never claimed that science is always right and 100% accurate, but a lot of things in science are very true. The laws of physics for example, and einsteins equation are UNIVERSAL, as in the work all across the universe. I cannot disprove something that is unfalsifiable, but I can put my trust into something that is testable and proven to work.

the catholic church persecuted Galileo for claiming heliocentricity amongst many other things.
Are any here going to claim that is untrue?

Trendy is right, Science has proven many things but has yet to explain many other things, the question is which is a better process. Clearly science

Religion was our (human kind) FIRST attempt at explaining the world around us in our infancy as a species. and because it was the first its the worst.

Clearly Science has a better understanding of why the physical world behaves the way it does.
so the question today is MORALITY and ETHICS. Does religion have a better answer for that ... my position is NO.

That does not mean Science does but non believers never claim that science is a source of morality or ethics.


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Tuna you should just enlighten us with your own thoughts, if you have any? i state my own thoughts not someone elses.

your ignorance is obvious to me because you misunderstand virtually everything you read from what ive seen.

why do you wait for someone else to post then respond? come on just throw us some your vast wisdom.

you just seem to be an empty person that enjoys being contradictive? if we say its daytime you'll probably argue that its really night.

i don't care to debate you about anything! just state your own oppinions.


wtf are you going on about? what do think i've been doing this entire time?
LOL you are the one who doesn't understand a damn thing you read and you make absolutely no sense. go pester someone else
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my neighbor dave is a full on genius and he told me something interesting

when his mom died he said there was a definite transfer of energy

oh yeah he is a physics professor a total non believer practical science guy so we talked about this transfer of energy and its for real yall

does it go anywhere,where does it go,what is it ? blows my mind.

luckily all of you seem to have it all figured out  like a flag run,just grab youre boots and show up to the all-star game for a holes.jk

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Originally posted by XTERMNATR

my neighbor dave is a full on genius and he told me something interesting

when his mom died he said there was a definite transfer of energy

oh yeah he is a physics professor a total non believer practical science guy so we talked about this transfer of energy and its for real yall

does it go anywhere,where does it go,what is it ? blows my mind.

luckily all of you seem to have it all figured out  like a flag run,just grab youre boots and show up to the all-star game for a holes.jk

sorry for getting so yodaish my herb is insane


Sorry, but this means absolutely nothing. How did he come to the conclusion that there was a "definite transfer of energy"? Did he have some unknown instrument that can detect a supernatural transfer of energy? I couldn't care less if he is a physics professor. So again, you completely put your faith into something based on one single source and don't bother research what anyone else has to say about it.  
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Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy

Originally posted by XTERMNATR

my neighbor dave is a full on genius and he told me something interesting

when his mom died he said there was a definite transfer of energy

oh yeah he is a physics professor a total non believer practical science guy so we talked about this transfer of energy and its for real yall

does it go anywhere,where does it go,what is it ? blows my mind.

luckily all of you seem to have it all figured out  like a flag run,just grab youre boots and show up to the all-star game for a holes.jk

sorry for getting so yodaish my herb is insane


Sorry, but this means absolutely nothing. How did he come to the conclusion that there was a "definite transfer of energy"? Did he have some unknown instrument that can detect a supernatural transfer of energy? I couldn't care less if he is a physics professor. So again, you completely put your faith into something based on one single source and don't bother research what anyone else has to say about it.  
Hey. he watches X-Files, that's credible!  ;)
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i dont base my beliefs on what my neighbor said to me  i thought it was interesting for a man of science to talk about his interpretation of what he felt saw whatever (sorry no instuments)

it was just a story sorry it bummed you out

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Originally posted by XTERMNATR

i dont base my beliefs on what my neighbor said to me  i thought it was interesting for a man of science to talk about his interpretation of what he felt saw whatever (sorry no instuments)

it was just a story sorry it bummed you out



Your exact quote was "it's for real yall" so yes, you did base your belief on what he said. By the way none of what you people are posting "bums me out" or "irritates me" or least of all challenges my way of thinking because not a single one of you has brought forth ANY sort of evidence or examples to back up what you say. The most you can muster up is a quote or anecdote that someone else said, which means absolutely nothing.
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im ok with that "the whole transfer of energy thing" but its dangerously close to the "force"

which we all know couldnt possibly exist.....but what if?

hey my theories arent anything too profound just a simple transfer of "energy"

if anybody has a different theory id like to hear it.the afterlife is a fascinating topic  

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neither believers or non believers could possibly know for sure wether god exists. ive used if in most everything i posted so that its clear that its not a statement or oppinion.

there's endless questions that can be asked about science or religion and scientists are trying to find some answers but i just don't trust that science is the best place to look for answers on religion!

a lot of people have believed in religion for thousands of years and im sure that were not going watch some video or hear some oppinion that can't be proven and suddenly lose faith in GOD. atleast im sure that i wont! as im sure any oppinions stating that GOD exists which also can't be proven isn't going to change a non believers mind.

and i assumed we were talking about the parts of science that deals with the known universe's as it relates to GOD and creation?

using medicin as an example in a sceintific fact discussion did make me laugh a little. its ok though atleast there's a discussion going on.

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Holy **** that was easily the longest page of ignorance yet posted on this site. What kind of statement is "science isn't fact"? Science covers an extremely broad range so to say that science isn't fact is just flat out dumb, there's really no other way to describe that statement. Now is all of science fact, no, of course not, no one would ever make that claim. And to quote some moronic 17th century philosopher is a completely pathetic attempt at an argument. Science has proven many, many things. All of modern medicine arose from scientific studies (we wouldn't have vaccines, antibiotics, penicillin, etc.) and sure as hell not from the bible or any other ancient text. All the technology around you is a product of science, and we have recently been able to decode the human genome due to science. I could go on forever but my point is that I've never really seen someone post something so blatantly stupid.

Call us nerds or whatever makes you feel better about yourself, but certainly don't criticize something you don't understand or even bother to research. Believe what you want to believe, I have no problem with that, but don't make arguments you can't uphold and know absolutely nothing about.
 
you spent 20 minutes earlier writing a reply and never posted, you come on hours later and you still have no valid comeback to what i posted. noone is calling you a nerd to feel better.. i was talking about your morbid love for science.. professor fink kinda nerdy is what i meant. you have been spouting off about how science is unquestionable, and been proven wrong over and over. re-read what i posted, and the things i already mentioned and summerblink did aswell. sciencetific tests dont even give the same results in different areas of our own planet, let alone the universe.. they are subject to conditions and intertapatations and you are acting as if they are flawless and certain.. anyhow for someone as "smart" as you.. to waste 20 minutes in "writing reply" and post nothing and then come back hours later and have no rebuttal.. im surprised.
So that means you were on this site twice today at least, man, what an internet nerd.     
 
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Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Deadaim

Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy

Holy **** that was easily the longest page of ignorance yet posted on this site. What kind of statement is "science isn't fact"? Science covers an extremely broad range so to say that science isn't fact is just flat out dumb, there's really no other way to describe that statement. Now is all of science fact, no, of course not, no one would ever make that claim. And to quote some moronic 17th century philosopher is a completely pathetic attempt at an argument. Science has proven many, many things. All of modern medicine arose from scientific studies (we wouldn't have vaccines, antibiotics, penicillin, etc.) and sure as hell not from the bible or any other ancient text. All the technology around you is a product of science, and we have recently been able to decode the human genome due to science. I could go on forever but my point is that I've never really seen someone post something so blatantly stupid.Call us nerds or whatever makes you feel better about yourself, but certainly don't criticize something you don't understand or even bother to research. Believe what you want to believe, I have no problem with that, but don't make arguments you can't uphold and know absolutely nothing about.
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<FONT size=+0>you spent 20 minutes earlier writing a reply and never posted, you come on hours later and you still have no valid comeback to what i posted. noone is calling you a nerd to feel better.. i was talking about your morbid love for science.. professor fink kinda nerdy is what i meant. you have been spouting off about how science is unquestionable, and been proven wrong over and over. re-read what i posted, and the things i already mentioned and summerblink did aswell. sciencetific tests dont even give the same results in different areas of our own planet, let alone the universe.. they are subject to conditions and intertapatations and you are acting as if they are flawless and certain.. anyhow for someone as "smart" as you.. to waste 20 minutes in "writing reply" and post nothing and then come back hours later and have no rebuttal.. im surprised.
So that means you were on this site twice today at least, man, what an internet nerd.      
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Yo Zizle! If a person believe humanity were created by a god -Then God DO exist, in that sense of what he believe.
So in other word - if we are under an evolution, we once were Monkeys, God do not exist.
But if somebody/someone created us, then yes there is a God somewhere...
It doesnt matter if the name of the god was Jack or Stig, does it!?
I believe in a creator (For me God). And she/he could easily be a scientist from another time...
Im just saying....
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science is gathering enough info too draw out a picture of things we do not understand... Science vs religion is a hoax. Its like comparing a jumbojet with a Pre taught pattern!!

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I believe in a creator (For me God). And she/he could easily be a scientist from another time...
Im just saying....
I'm sure you know this but also for others: it's a paradox, well kinda I mean yes there may be a creator, but who created him/her/it ? If it's god as the allmighty being beyong our comprehension or a scientist from another time. Humanity just cannot accept the FACT that we are not capable of understanding where we come from, cause every explanation I know of (god, big bang or whatever) still leaves the question: What was before that ? And before that ??
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so trendy 
how did nothing suddenly explode :/
I know the big bang doesn't describe the time before the big bang.
but man aren't we lucky that the big bang banged the way it did?
I mean we just happened to get a good sized sun.
the earth just happens  to be the right distance from the sun.
now I'm asking this because I don't know....
do the laws of the universe work every single time without fail?
is gravity a constant?
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and why is it out of all the capable creatures on the planet we were the only ones who evolved the way we did.
according to science we aren't even the oldest things here.
everything about your position is by chance.
by chance nothing became the universe we have tday.
by chance chaos brought us the laws we have today.
by chance the sun is the size it is.
by chance earth is where it is.
and you wager your whole belief system on chance.
science is more ignorant than it is knwoledgeable.
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so trendy 
how did nothing suddenly explode :/
I know the big bang doesn't describe the time before the big bang.
but man aren't we lucky that the big bang banged the way it did?
I mean we just happened to get a good sized sun.
the earth just happens  to be the right distance from the sun.
now I'm asking this because I don't know....
do the laws of the universe work every single time without fail?
is gravity a constant?
and etc.
 
Ah the Intelligebt Desigh argument ... propoganda term for creationism.
Who designed the designer?
10 years ago we discovered that the Universe growing at an ACCELARATING rate ... which implies that its end 'design', if you wil,l is Nothingness!  Some Design.
 
As I said earlier, although  a Prime Mover is possible (though unproven) I dont understand how you go from that to beleiving in a Christian God or Muslim God or Jewish GOd
 
I know your question was not directed to me but I had to respond
 
 
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and you wager your whole belief system on chance.
science is more ignorant than it is knwoledgeable.
 
Wager??? so your belief system is based on a wager. Pascals Wager actually does exist.
Pascal argues if you 'Bet' there is a god you've got nothing to lose but if you bet there is no god and he exists then you go to hell. This is moral teaching?
 
The is the essence of Religious huxterism ... Come into my used car lot have I got a deal for you.
God is Great and he needs your money.
I don't make a wager, I ask for proof.
 
Actually Science makes no claim of knowing ... Science is about learning is  and aknowledging that we are constantly searching for truth.
 
Its the religious that claim ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE! which is the more arrogant?
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no I mean his entire belief in the big bang at the foundation is chance.
like I previously said.
not that by chance I believe in God.
and I know pascal- wager I read it in middle school.
I'm saying there is more proof for a "god" than there is for without one.
I chose Christianity because I've seen the results.
only a fool (like the one in proverbs) would argue there's more evidence "against" a god.
I believe it's the God of the Christians.
and that the jews need to download the lastes firmware.

sorry for errors I'm on a palm pre and I can't see what I type and it only happens here.
christianity works for me and it could work fr all people if they would actually adhere to it.
no ex-christian has truly tried christianity, I will wager that.
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