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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc wow? hey do any of you guys want to buy some prime swamp land in bum fk'ed Egypt? lol there are a few legit questions i have like, why Iraq?

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc just so you know, us *BELIEVERS* got this thread on lock!!!

Sure do

why iraq? because all crazy dictator govt's that offer zero human rights deserve to die.

Human rights organizations have documented government-approved executions, acts of torture, and **** for decades since Saddam Hussein came to power in 1979 until his fall in 2003.

• In 2002, a resolution sponsored by the European Union was adopted by the Commission for Human Rights, which stated that there had been no improvement in the human rights crisis in Iraq. The statement condemned President Saddam Hussein's government for its "systematic, widespread and extremely grave violations of human rights and international humanitarian law". The resolution demanded that Iraq immediately put an end to its "summary and arbitrary executions... the use of **** as a political tool and all enforced and involuntary disappearances". ^[1]

• Full political participation at the national level was restricted only to members of the Arab Ba'ath Party, which constituted only 8% of the population. Therefore, it was impossible for Iraqi citizens to change their government.

• Iraqi citizens were not allowed to assemble legally unless it was to express support for the government. The Iraqi government controlled the establishment of political parties, regulated their internal affairs and monitored their activities.

• Police checkpoints on Iraq's roads and highways prevented ordinary citizens from traveling abroad without government permission and expensive exit visas. Before traveling, an Iraqi citizen had to post collateral. Iraqi women could not travel outside of the country without the escort of a male relative.

• The activities of citizens living inside Iraq who received money from relatives abroad were closely monitored.

• Halabja poison gas attack:The Halabja poison gas attack occurred in the period 15–19 March 1988 during the Iran–Iraq War when chemical weapons were used by the Iraqi government forces and thousands civilians in the Iraqi Kurdish town of Halabja were killed.^[2]

• Al-Anfal Campaign: In 1988, the Hussein regime began a campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern Iraq. This is known as the Anfal campaign. The campaign was mostly directed at Shiite kurds (Faili Kurds) who sided with Iranians during the Iraq-Iran War. The attacks resulted in the death of at least 50,000 (some reports estimate as many as 100,000 people), many of them women and children. A team of Human Rights Watch investigators determined, after analyzing eighteen tons of captured Iraqi documents, testing soil samples and carrying out interviews with more than 350 witnesses, that the attacks on the Kurdish people were characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass executions and disappearances of many tens of thousands of noncombatants, widespread use of chemical weapons including Sarin, mustard gas and nerve agents that killed thousands, the arbitrary imprisoning of tens of thousands of women, children, and elderly people for months in conditions of extreme deprivation, forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of villagers after the demolition of their homes, and the wholesale destruction of nearly two thousand villages along with their schools, mosques, farms, and power stations.^[2][3]

• In April 1991, after Saddam lost control of Kuwait in the Persian Gulf War, he cracked down ruthlessly against several uprisings in the Kurdish north and the Shia south. His forces committed wholesale massacres and other gross human rights violations against both groups similar to the violations mentioned before. Estimates of deaths during that time range from 20,000 to 100,000 for Kurds, and 60,000 to 130,000 for Shi'ites.^[4]

• In June 1994, the Hussein regime in Iraq established severe penalties, including amputation, branding and the death penalty for criminal offenses such as theft, corruption, currency speculation and military desertion, while government members and Saddam's family members were immune from punishments ranging around these crimes.^[5]

• On March 23, 2003, during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Iraqi television presented and interviewed prisoners of war on TV, violating the Geneva Convention.

• Also in April 2003, CNN revealed that it had withheld information about Iraq torturing journalists and Iraqi citizens in the 1990s. According to CNN's chief news executive, the channel had been concerned for the safety not only of its own staff, but also of Iraqi sources and informants, who could expect punishment for speaking freely to reporters. Also according to the executive, "other news organizations were in the same bind."^[6]

• After the 2003 invasion of Iraq, several mass graves were found in Iraq containing several thousand bodies total, and more are being uncovered to this day^{[citation needed]}. While most of the dead in the graves were believed to have died in the 1991 uprising against Saddam Hussein, some of them appeared to have died due to executions or died at times other than the 1991 rebellion.

• Also after the invasion, numerous torture centers were found in security offices and police stations throughout Iraq. The equipment found at these centers typically included hooks for hanging people by the hands for beatings, devices for electric shock, and other equipment often found in nations with harsh security services and other authoritarian nations.

acctually.. in a way that is the reason we went to war with iraq.. they wouldnt of been in our crosshairs since the early 90's if they didnt have so many horror stories of human rights violations.

well the ends justifies the means may apply in Iraq's case, but im talking about the truth behind our invading them in the first place. what was the real reason? maybe there were national security or economical reasons that are being kept from the public? oil is very important to our economy atm, but i don't think it was oil! hell look how much that war has cost us.

the 911 attack hurt our econemy real bad, thats another reason it wouldn't make since for it to have been done by us!

lol dude, Iraq attacked Kuwait in the early 90s. the whole reason why Iraq attacked Kuwait was because Iraq claimed Kuwait was drilling for oil at an angle and tapping into Iraq's natural recources. did you not read one of my earlier posts? we are trying to turn the middle east democratic and it's pretty obvious.. i mean the united states has already admitted to wrongly invading Iraq and tried to make it out like they were liberating the people which we weren't. the reason why we took Iraq is because it's dead in the center and is one of the main countries in the middle east. do you know what's going on in the world, deadaim? you must listen to Fox because your views are definitely distorted! don't type "Iraq" in wiki and try to understand what's going on, listen to NPR or do some research on the internet. it's all strategy! we are so depended on oil that we have to do this to make sure we survive. we need to learn how to harness more energy from our sun because we would never use oil again if we could figure it out

Originally posted by TuNA FISh lol dude, Iraq attacked Kuwait in the early 90s. the whole reason why Iraq attacked Kuwait was because Iraq claimed Kuwait was drilling for oil at an angle and tapping into Iraq's natural recources. did you not read one of my earlier posts? we are trying to turn the middle east democratic and it's pretty obvious.. i mean the united states has already admitted to wrongly invading Iraq and tried to make it out like they were liberating the people which we weren't. the reason why we took Iraq is because it's dead in the center and is one of the main countries in the middle east. do you know what's going on in the world, deadaim? you must listen to Fox because your views are definitely distorted! don't type "Iraq" in wiki and try to understand what's going on, listen to NPR or do some research on the internet. it's all strategy! we are so depended on oil that we have to do this to make sure we survive. we need to learn how to harness more energy from our sun because we would never use oil again if we could figure it out

on the spot my azz! he don't know jack sh!t! the dude is a walking talking progressive fn moron! he assumes to know sh!t that he can't know unless he was in Bush's fn administration! now there's you a fn FACT! since he likes to use that word so fn much!

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we'll be in africa soon enough :/ but for the wrong reasons.

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc why not just pull all of our troops out of everywhere and just say your on your own? stop sending billions in aid? we can use all that money here right? why not become isolationists and secure our borders and let the rest of the world be dod eat dog? lol i can just hear other country's screaming NO DON'T DO THAT!!!!! xD you'd see evil rear its head if that happened! believe that!

we already invested to much in other countries.

that was just an example for the lamo's that forget or just don't realize just how much sacrifice and aid the US has always given for one reason or another!

best Country in history by far!