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    Posted: 11 Sep 2010 at 10:36am
Dude. You cannot prove that god doesn't exist, until someone "proved" he does exist. You CANNOT prove a negative.
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Then why in the hell do you guys keep posting blastfamous examples? you and lunchy need serious help!
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Is this not a discussion ? We are one side of the discussion, and we name our points.

Why in the hell do you keep basing your belief only on your belief ?
You keep evading any good points we make by saying it's blasphemic (or however it's spelled).
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Why are there two Ogres kneeling down in the front of the picture?


lol... I don't know.
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Is this not a discussion ? We are one side of the discussion, and we name our points.

Why in the hell do you keep basing your belief only on your belief ?
You keep evading any good points we make by saying it's blasphemic (or however it's spelled).


you guys havn't even made any points! youve just mock'd Jesus, the Bible and Christianity!

if you were to do the same thing about Muhamid, the q'ran and Islam you'd need to hope that no muslim see's it! because they would want to kill you guys! and thats no joke!

its one of the big fundimental differences between Christianity and Muslims.

you guys just need to realise everything is not just fun and games!

but alls im saying is even if you don't believe? why be disrespectful and rude about it?

take the guy in Florida as an example. he just claimed he was going to burn some q'rans and people have already died because of it! and more people will probably die because of it in the future.

people take there religion very serious! then there's the misguided radicals that want hate and war!

im more of a pacifist! live and let live!

   

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I haven't made any points ?? Jeez. -.-

Anyway, I'm not being disrespectful and rude about it, but I am annoyed. Because everytime I bring a good point I hit a wall of ignorance.
And you tell us not to be mocking your religion, I'm not but would you please just stop saying that guys like me n Lunchy need to be saved ?
Let me put this very clear:
We don't want to be a part of your religion/cult. Nothing will ever change that. Please don't try to "save" us.
We live happy, and we are sure about our decision.
 
Also, to Deadaim.
I come from a well working family, we never had any money problems because my parents both work very hard, I lived a very happy live and I still do, I have a girlfriend who I love more than anything, I have pets, hobbies, friends, I am quite good at school, I never ever had any big problems in my life that can have a big impact on my person. And I was not raised to NOT believe in god, my parents decided it should be my own decision, so they didn't have me baptised.
Choosing not to believe in god and follow any of the given religions was all my own decision, after thinking about it rationally.
I tell you this to destroy your idea that every atheist lived a sh1tty life, has no friends and is always sad or however you imagine atheists.
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not being disrespectful or rude? wall of ignorance? a mocking plasfmaous picture with misleading text is posted by lunchy then you post how you love the picture? naw you guys are try'n to be real classy and mature right?

and i said you guys need help! i didn't say saved! i can't save you anyway! only Jesus can do that! alls i could do is pray for your salvation, if i chose to?

im not going to argue about it! my point has been simple! There is a GOD! religion is a personal thing between an individual and GOD! the only way to know of GOD is to reach GOD! Try to reach GOD! If you choose not to then i refer you to the Bible for answers on further guidance and possible conciquinces!

now if i were a Priest or Pastor i would know the Bible isnide and out, and be able to help guide you further, but i am neither!

thus ends my obligation!





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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

my point has been simple! There is a GOD!
That's not a point, nor can it be part of one, it's an assumption. And don't start with the blasphemic thing again.
And by praying and by trying to convince me you are trying to save me, well to get me saved. But as stated, I don't want that.
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for me its not an assumtion! i know! but im not try'n to convince anyone that GOD exists! im suggesting that everyone try to reach GOD and see for there self?

and i didn't say i would pray for you guys! i said i could if i chose to.
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If you know, it would be a fact, but you have to see that it's still an assumption, maybe you are convinced, but it is not a fact, or else you could prove it right ?
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Sorry, I can't be classy with a subject like this.  If there is a God, it's 3 foot tall and grey.  But as far as anything that the bible talks about, it complete idiocy!  Sorry if anyone takes offense to that. it's my opinion.  You say I'm wrong, you can mock me all day, but in the end, it's the believers who have the burden of truth, not the non-believers.  
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"In the end, it's the believers who have the burden of truth, not the non-believers."
Exactly, how very true that is.
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Can't anyone just accept each others differences? why must everyone say that what they do or do not believe in is the only right way. All I know is when that time comes for me to die, I will know if my beliefs are the truth, so being that no one here as died yet, you are ALL wrong, move on to REAL truths... like a locked warfare will be set up tonight at 8pm cst!!!

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HAHA JP, that was good.
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i didn't say i was convinced, i said I KNOW!

non-believers wont know in life! they may know after death if thats GODS will?

but who are you who would demand proof but refuses to seek GOD for the answer? are you the rightious?

there is no burden of proof! there's only the truth and being wise enough to see the truth!





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Yes, all this was made for us, the ENTIRE universe was made so we could worship some guy we never met. Oh, but if you don't, you'll be damned for eternity. God ain't a savior, he's a little brat with a magnifing glass, burning ants. I'd rather burn in hell, than spend 1 day next to that pr1ck.
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God ain't a savior, he's a little brat with a magnifing glass.

damn, god is mikey? :/  
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This thread should die...

Edit: haha, this just popped in my head to do this. I know I just said to let this thread die, but today is the perfect day to post these lyrics, and what better place than here. Slayer's "God Hates Us All" was released on 9-11-01, the day the WTC was attacked. It's a very anti-religious album. There are some terrorist references too which makes the album's lyrics all the more creepy. I know this is gonna add fuel to the fire, but f*ck it, this is the note I'd like to end this thread on, for my comments at least. If you don't own this album, you can find it on Slayer's myspace page and give it a listen. If you like metal, it's as good as it gets, IMHO. Here ya go.

2. Disciple

Drones since the dawn of time
Compelled to live your sheltered lives
Not once has anyone ever seen
Such a rise of pure hypocracy
I'll instigate I'll free your mind
I'll show you what I've known all this time

God Hates Us All, God Hates Us All
You know it's true God hates this place
You know it's true he hates this race

Homicide-Suicide
Hate heals, you should try it sometime
Strive for Peace with acts of war
The beauty of death we all adore
I have no faith distracting me
I know why your prayers will never be answered

God Hates Us All; God Hates Us All
He f***in' hates me

Pessimist, Terrorist targeting the next mark
Global chaos feeding on hysteria
Cut throat, slit your wrist, shoot you in the back fair game
Drug abuse, self abuse searching for the next high
Sounds a lot like hell is spreading all the time
I'm waiting for the day the whole world f***ing dies

I never said I wanted to be God's disciple
I'll never be the one to blindly follow

Man made virus infecting the world
Self-destruct human time bomb
What if there is no God would you think the f***in' same
Wasting your life in a leap of blind faith
Wake the f*** up can't ignore what I say
I got my own philosophy

I hate everyone equally
You can't tear that out of me
No segregation -separation
Just me in my world of enemies

I never said I wanted to be God's disciple
I'll never be the one to blindly follow
I'll never be the one to bear the cross-disciple

I reject this f***in' race
I despise this f***in' place


4. New Faith

Holy man open up your eyes
To the ways of the world you've been so blind
As the walls of religion come crashing down
How's the ignorance taste the second time around

Tell me how it feels knowing chaos will never end
Tell me what it's like when the celebration begins

Welcome to the horror of the revelation
Tell me what you think of your savior now
I reject all the biblical views of the truth
Dismiss it as the folklore of the times
I won't be force fed prophecies
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind
Join the new faith for the celebration
Cult of new faith fuels the devastation

Holy man come and worship me
I am all that you ever wanted to be
I'm the life of indulgence you never knew
The epitome of evil shining through

Tell me how it feels knowing chaos will never end
Tell me what it's like when the celebration begins

Welcome to the horror of the revelation
Tell me what you think of your savior now
I reject all the biblical views of the truth
Dismiss it as the folklore of the times
I won't be force fed prophecies
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind
I keep the bible in a pool of blood
So that none of its lies can affect me

This is new faith
A different way of life
Witness the shame
See for yourself the lies
I'll take the fight
Bring it every time, any time
Refuse to let them win
My heresy begins

Pray for life - wish for death
Pray for life - know in time you'll pray for death

Tear it away
It lives inside your mind
Silence the fear
That keeps you pure inside
Now you can see
Life's atrocities endlessly
Witness the miracle
Witness the miracle

Pray for life - wish for death
Pray for life - with every breath
You'll pray for death - you'll pray for death
Embrace new faith, embrace new faith
Yeah, new faith - yeah, new faith.

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why should it die? i don't see it that way. people have different ideas but to just kill a thread isn't the answer!

take Luchy for an example, i believe he has just as good of a chance as anyone else of finding salvation!

because in time Lunchy could totally change his view? and GOD is both understand and forgiving.

Jesus died on the cross so we all may be saved!

no one is without sin!

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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

why should it die? i don't see it that way. people have different ideas but to just kill a thread isn't the answer!

take Luchy for an example, i believe he has just as good of a chance as anyone else of finding salvation!

because in time Lunchy could totally change his view? and GOD is both understand and forgiving.

Jesus died on the cross so we all may be saved!

because no one is without sin!


rebellious youth being lead astray isn't nothing new! and its acually not very original! and as we get older and wiser we realise that!
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

why should it die? i don't see it that way. people have different ideas but to just kill a thread isn't the answer!

take Luchy for an example, i believe he has just as good of a chance as anyone else of finding salvation!

because in time Lunchy could totally change his view? and GOD is both understand and forgiving.

Jesus died on the cross so we all may be saved!

because no one is without sin!


rebellious youth being lead astray isn't nothing new! and its actually not very original! and as we get older and wiser we realize that!


So, does this mean I'll eventually stop being a moderate liberal/ Independent-loving guy when I get older?
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lunchy will see the light and i'll wager its way before his death on earth ;)
mathematically speaking nothing comes from 0
and sizzle thats why we look at the hebrew and greek translations for more clarity.

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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

why should it die? i don't see it that way. people have different ideas but to just kill a thread isn't the answer!take Luchy for an example, i believe he has just as good of a chance as anyone else of finding salvation! because in time Lunchy could totally change his view? and GOD is both understand and forgiving.Jesus died on the cross so we all may be saved!because no one is without sin!
rebellious youth being lead astray isn't nothing new! and its actually not very original! and as we get older and wiser we realize that!
So, does this mean I'll eventually stop being a moderate liberal/ Independent-loving guy when I get older?


alls i can say is that you'll get a lot wiser, thats 4 sure
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