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lol silver, yup u did, buried somewhere in this thread
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lol silver, yup u did, buried somewhere in this thread
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Originally posted by ax412

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lol great points.. there's between 2 to 6 billion Christians in the world which means 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds population are Christian which is a lot but its still not even close to what it should be. i just hate the thought of anyone going to hell for all eternity. if thats the case? so its always worth it to try to save someone. even on a silly gaming site xD      
Between 2 and 6 billion Christians?!? Which is 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds population?!? Sorry to bust your holy bubble Syz but there aren't even 7 billion people in the worldWacko
he probably meant 2billion people and about 6billion population.


@ Chiso-nice try but you don't get it! some of you guys would rather be clowns then try to make a real point.

@Phantaci the exact number doesn't matter because my point is 2/3 to 3/4 of the worlds population is going to hell acording to Christian beliefs. and i don't like that fact. even the Christian hating clowns.


I'm not arguing anything religious anymore in this thread. As I said before, it's pointless. I did make a point though by calling you out on those 3rd grade math skills.

Keep defending him phantaci when we both know clearly what he said. "there's between 2 to 6 billion Christians in the world which means 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds population are Christian which is a lot but its still not even close to what it should be." I think my IQ dropped another 20 points after re-reading that.

Syzygy, read Lee Strobel's "The Case For Faith." The hottie evangelical I dated years back got me to read it. It was actually a good book. I'd think you'd enjoy it, and may answer some of your questions.


Lol haha that reminded me of a really lame match with me n Danjel against a few DEVIL guys when they camped their a$$es off, after the match he said "I think I just actually lost brain cells just by playing this retarded match." I know danjel can be/usually is a huge d1ck but that was awesome.
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Yet again, GOD is also just theory without proof, not a fact.
And I'm against religion being used improperly (Crusades for exapmple).
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are you serious lol?
If there was proof this discussion wouldn't exist would it ? Show me.
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lol great points.. there's between 2 to 6 billion Christians in the world which means 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds population are Christian which is a lot but its still not even close to what it should be. i just hate the thought of anyone going to hell for all eternity. if thats the case? so its always worth it to try to save someone. even on a silly gaming site xD      
Between 2 and 6 billion Christians?!? Which is 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds population?!? Sorry to bust your holy bubble Syz but there aren't even 7 billion people in the worldWacko
he probably meant 2billion people and about 6billion population.
@ Chiso-nice try but you don't get it! some of you guys would rather be clowns then try to make a real point.@Phantaci the exact number doesn't matter because my point is 2/3 to 3/4 of the worlds population is going to hell acording to Christian beliefs. and i don't like that fact. even the Christian hating clowns.
I'm not arguing anything religious anymore in this thread. As I said before, it's pointless. I did make a point though by calling you out on those 3rd grade math skills.Keep defending him phantaci when we both know clearly what he said. "there's between 2 to 6 billion Christians in the world which means 1/4 to 1/3 of the worlds population are Christian which is a lot but its still not even close to what it should be." I think my IQ dropped another 20 points after re-reading that.Syzygy, read Lee Strobel's "The Case For Faith." The hottie evangelical I dated years back got me to read it. It was actually a good book. I'd think you'd enjoy it, and may answer some of your questions.


all the clown crap just wont here because its about religion and not me. questioning *MY* math skills? lmFao if you only knew _-)

you still can't make a single point? not even 1 point! your just another clown that aint funny! and since you chose to represent the mark of the beast with 666 id say your not very happy.

no one has even tried to dispute that the human brain was created? and anyone that doesn't already realise that our brain is what we acually are? just doesn't know enough to even try to figure out the rest!

what all is acually connected to the brain? go learn that and you'll begin to see what im talking about. _-)

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Not to offend anyone here I'm very serious, this is just my opinion, but I think John 14:6 may actually work because it works as an illusion. That's why it won't work for me, well even if it wasn't an illusion, I am seriously not capable of accepting jesus or god TRULY, I can say it sure but it's not what I believe. In my heart I am dead sure of my decision. I guess it would take a miracle to even make me consider my faith.
It may work as an illusion, because the brain is capable of altering reality to you, it is possible to see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear, feel what you want to feel if you really do so with all your heart. Sure there's nothing wrong with it, if it works, but I choose not to. (Keep in mind that this is only my opinion about it please respect it).
 
Besides I think many people, no, MOST people who say they believe in god don't even go that deep into their belief. They just assume it's the right choice, imo because so many others say so also.
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just throwing this out there, but if there is god, how can u be certain its the god u believe in? then again we all might be right just and perceive the same god in different ways. i just keep reminding myself that whatever events someone has experienced that have caused them to say "this god exists" many other ppl world wide have had their own experiences that make them say their god exists. its all possible really, and i dont think it should matter whos right or whos wrong as long as we can live in a way that betters ourselves and the world around us.


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666 isn't the number of the beast, and he said to him it's got nothing to do with Satan, but with his favourite music genre.
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Yet again, GOD is also just theory without proof, not a fact.
And I'm against religion being used improperly (Crusades for exapmple).
without proof?
are you serious lol?
If there was proof this discussion wouldn't exist would it ? Show me.


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666 is the mark of the beast Dagan and it always has been. so to choose that number is very odd imo.
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someone with 666 in there tag is just seeking attention! SATAN isn't someone to play with!


http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30211

its been translated from the earliest known version of the new testament that the number is actually 616, so i guess the 666 doesn't mean much
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someone with 666 in there tag is just seeking attention! SATAN isn't someone to play with!
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30211its been translated from the earliest known version of the new testament that the number is actually 616, so i guess the 666 doesn't mean much


you can't just change it because of some webarticle.
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No but you can because of what the article is about, the studies within the article.
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ok im changing the word athiest to mean clown then _-) jk so don't start cry'n

read up on Jesus and listen to his words if you really want to know the truth? Its all pretty well documented! If you don't believe Jesus i surely cant convince you!
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

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Originally posted by ax412

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Yet again, GOD is also just theory without proof, not a fact.
And I'm against religion being used improperly (Crusades for exapmple).
without proof?
are you serious lol?
If there was proof this discussion wouldn't exist would it ? Show me.
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

someone with 666 in there tag is just seeking attention! SATAN isn't someone to play with!


http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30211

its been translated from the earliest known version of the new testament that the number is actually 616, so i guess the 666 doesn't mean much
yeah in some bibles at the bottom of page it says some manuscripts contain 616.
if that's the "earliest" transcript then hey.
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syz, man they translated it from the earliest known version of the new testament. even in most moder bibles theres a footnote saying the number might be 616 not 666.

EDIT: darn phant u beat me to it...n ya this is the earliest KNOWN to exist
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lol silver, yup u did, buried somewhere in this thread
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Jesus answers all that.

for you yes as well as for a lot of others but realise you have about just as many, people saying that some figure from their religion answers all questions too.

i know u believe ur right, just as theyd believe theyre right. but i keep thinkn that millions, perhaps maybe billions, of people hav had their own religious experiences that do not relate to christianity.
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not to get to off topic, but tx.
for instance Joseph Smith saw an "angel".
Muhammad claimed to see Gabriel.
yet the apostle pauls warns hundreds of years prior that the devil himself and probablyb all the fallen angels can appear as an angel of light.
 
somebody is wrong in terms of religion.
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ya i realise we've been gettn a bit off topic, sry

but if other religions are preaching love, peace, unity and much of the same values of christianity how can they be work of the devil u believe in? heck these religions also have their own figureheads of evil.

if u truly believe someone HAS to be wrong, i think it should be appropriate that along with saying that everyone else might be wrong, you also might be wrong. acknowledging the possibilities doesn't mean throwing away ur beliefs.

again maybe we r all right and are experiencing the same diety/force or whatever in our own individual way u know?
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anyhow Tx, getting back to other religions preaching love and peace and etc. That's all fine and dany.
But from a christian perspective, the devil wants the average person to think that good people go to heaven and bad people go to heaven.
In essence your works get you into heaven. That is why saducees and pharisees were so zealous of the law, because they thought theeir good deeds justified them.
In the christian view, no one is good enough to get into heaven.
other relgions work for righteousness. While God makes us righteous by christ. The Apostle Paul writes nany times that we are saved by faith and grace and not by works lest any man should boast.
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anyhow Tx, getting back to other religions preaching love and peace and etc. That's all fine and dany.
But from a christian perspective, the devil wants the average person to think that good people go to heaven and bad people go to heaven.
In essence your works get you into heaven. That is why saducees and pharisees were so zealous of the law, because they thought theeir good deeds justified them.
In the christian view, no one is good enough to get into heaven.
other relgions work for righteousness. While God makes us righteous by christ. The Apostle Paul writes nany times that we are saved by faith and grace and not by works lest any man should boast.



so wait... no-one gets into heaven then? that's got me wondering what exactly the appealing side of christianity is...
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anyhow Tx, getting back to other religions preaching love and peace and etc. That's all fine and dany.
But from a christian perspective, the devil wants the average person to think that good people go to heaven and bad people go to heaven.
In essence your works get you into heaven. That is why saducees and pharisees were so zealous of the law, because they thought theeir good deeds justified them.
In the christian view, no one is good enough to get into heaven.
other relgions work for righteousness. While God makes us righteous by christ. The Apostle Paul writes nany times that we are saved by faith and grace and not by works lest any man should boast.



so wait... no-one gets into heaven then? that's got me wondering what exactly the appealing side of christianity is...
you get into heaven by christ.
and not by your own "goodness:
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wait u said devil wants people to think good people go to heaven and bad people go to heaven. i got confused here, did u mean to say bad people dont go to heaven? ill assume that unless otherwise stated...anyways, but in the bible did not christ sacrifice himself for ALL mankind? extrapalting from that, should u not then look upon everyone as a brother who too is righteous? regardless of their belief?
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