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    Posted: 14 Oct 2009 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by CarloThunder

I know this sounds crazy but i'd like to play duels without any powerups whatsoever except for health vials.  For me this would put more emphasis on the fighting itself rather than wandering around maps trying to get the shield belt or whatever. 
 
Like someone else said, its pretty boring to watch.  In my case it woul;d make me try to improve my defence as when i get the shield belt i tend to spam a little bit and pick up cheap kills to be honest which of course isn't honourable.

What you want isn't duel in the first place, it's deathmatch
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Originally posted by Drokun

Originally posted by CarloThunder

I know this sounds crazy but i'd like to play duels without any powerups whatsoever except for health vials.  For me this would put more emphasis on the fighting itself rather than wandering around maps trying to get the shield belt or whatever. 
 
Like someone else said, its pretty boring to watch.  In my case it woul;d make me try to improve my defence as when i get the shield belt i tend to spam a little bit and pick up cheap kills to be honest which of course isn't honourable.

What you want isn't duel in the first place, it's deathmatch
 
Maybe so but imo it would be a fairer fight with noone having a significant advantage over the other Smile.  Some random players i've played against have only been good when they have the shield belt, when they don't they're not so good.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RemY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2009 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by CarloThunder

Originally posted by Drokun

Originally posted by CarloThunder

I know this sounds crazy but i'd like to play duels without any powerups whatsoever except for health vials.  For me this would put more emphasis on the fighting itself rather than wandering around maps trying to get the shield belt or whatever. 
 
Like someone else said, its pretty boring to watch.  In my case it woul;d make me try to improve my defence as when i get the shield belt i tend to spam a little bit and pick up cheap kills to be honest which of course isn't honourable.

What you want isn't duel in the first place, it's deathmatch
 
Maybe so but imo it would be a fairer fight with noone having a significant advantage over the other Smile.  Some random players i've played against have only been good when they have the shield belt, when they don't they're not so good.


The odds of killing a person with

Redeemer = HIGH
Amp = HIGH
All stock weapons = Depending on the skill of the user


Think about it people, its been addressed many times before. AMP and redeemer in duels does not show raw skill of a player. Okay how is having shieldbelt show skill? A SB is a defensive item that allows and gives the user more freedom to control the map. This does not entirely changes the game but it can somewhat make a difference. However, when you add in the fact that a rocket with amp can do well over 200+ and a primary flak can do 360. 100 extra armor isnt that much of a difference cuz a flak ball/rocket/combo/bio can do well over 100 damage.
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Originally posted by COKKENBALLS

Originally posted by TuNA FISh

Originally posted by Drokun

Most of the people posting play warfare or vctf

figures....
Perhaps more people would duel if you'd share your red stapler?
 
ya well ahhh were ganna have to stop talking about this and move you to a new location

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Post Options Post Options   Quote YINYANG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Oct 2009 at 12:25am
Originally posted by MIGZ-1

Originally posted by COKKENBALLS

Originally posted by TuNA FISh

Originally posted by Drokun

Most of the people posting play warfare or vctf

figures....
Perhaps more people would duel if you'd share your red stapler?
 
ya well ahhh were ganna have to stop talking about this and move you to a new location
 
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Originally posted by Drokun



On a side-note, I really love how Ps3 version players keep bladdering on about having skill.


WTF does this mean? Blabbering or bladdering (peepee)?  No skill on consoles?  The only way something could require no skill would be if it was automated - that is, no human input.  PC might be more difficult, but you also get a mouse (easier to use than a gamepad).  So, relatively speaking, are they equal?  Have you done an analysis?
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Originally posted by Buzzin Fr0g

Originally posted by Drokun



On a side-note, I really love how Ps3 version players keep bladdering on about having skill.
No skill on consoles? 

This is what I meant.
The ammount of skill is minimal in comparison to PC, so there is no reason for players to be bigheaded in the first place.
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Most people aren't very good at gaming to begin with, so let's do away with the  PC elitism.  I can't speak about the UT crowd.  But I don't find competition across console games to be any easier or more difficult than competitive PC gaming.  Most of the time when I read comments about how PC is best, I always have to remind myself that the person typing is very likely one of the 95%+ (made up stat.) that all bleed together into the role of score padding material.   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Buzzin Fr0g Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Oct 2009 at 2:43am
Originally posted by yingyangin

Originally posted by MIGZ-1

Originally posted by COKKENBALLS

Originally posted by TuNA FISh

Originally posted by Drokun

Most of the people posting play warfare or vctf

figures....
Perhaps more people would duel if you'd share your red stapler?
 
ya well ahhh were ganna have to stop talking about this and move you to a new location
 
Migz if you could just uhh clean up around here as well thatd be great thanks.


Don't alarm him by telling him of his removal from the clan.  Just let it work itself out over time.  LOL
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On PC version I find duellers better than me in pubs, on Ps3 not so much, by far not as many players are good - especially since I play with Eu players only there (well almost)
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Hold on, are you from the Netherlands?  I was under the impression you were, but today Q80Face informed me you were Rican's brother.  Is there no truth to this?
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The odds of killing a person with

Redeemer = HIGH
Amp = HIGH
All stock weapons = Depending on the skill of the user


Think about it people, its been addressed many times before. AMP and redeemer in duels does not show raw skill of a player. Okay how is having shieldbelt show skill? A SB is a defensive item that allows and gives the user more freedom to control the map. This does not entirely changes the game but it can somewhat make a difference. However, when you add in the fact that a rocket with amp can do well over 200+ and a primary flak can do 360. 100 extra armor isnt that much of a difference cuz a flak ball/rocket/combo/bio can do well over 100 damage.
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You make a good point here.  Though if i used the flak cannon or rocket launcher against someone with a shield belt, it'd probably be considered cheap by those who think the flak and rocket launcher are spam weapons epecially if they were just fired constantly and hope they get lucky.
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Originally posted by RemY

Originally posted by CarloThunder

Originally posted by Drokun

Originally posted by CarloThunder

I know this sounds crazy but i'd like to play duels without any powerups whatsoever except for health vials.  For me this would put more emphasis on the fighting itself rather than wandering around maps trying to get the shield belt or whatever. 
 
Like someone else said, its pretty boring to watch.  In my case it woul;d make me try to improve my defence as when i get the shield belt i tend to spam a little bit and pick up cheap kills to be honest which of course isn't honourable.

What you want isn't duel in the first place, it's deathmatch
 
Maybe so but imo it would be a fairer fight with noone having a significant advantage over the other Smile.  Some random players i've played against have only been good when they have the shield belt, when they don't they're not so good.


The odds of killing a person with

Redeemer = HIGH
Amp = HIGH
All stock weapons = Depending on the skill of the user


Think about it people, its been addressed many times before. AMP and redeemer in duels does not show raw skill of a player. Okay how is having shieldbelt show skill? A SB is a defensive item that allows and gives the user more freedom to control the map. This does not entirely changes the game but it can somewhat make a difference. However, when you add in the fact that a rocket with amp can do well over 200+ and a primary flak can do 360. 100 extra armor isnt that much of a difference cuz a flak ball/rocket/combo/bio can do well over 100 damage.

Odds... Low
Probability... High
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Originally posted by Drokun

Originally posted by CarloThunder

I know this sounds crazy but i'd like to play duels without any powerups whatsoever except for health vials.  For me this would put more emphasis on the fighting itself rather than wandering around maps trying to get the shield belt or whatever. 
 
Like someone else said, its pretty boring to watch.  In my case it woul;d make me try to improve my defence as when i get the shield belt i tend to spam a little bit and pick up cheap kills to be honest which of course isn't honourable.

What you want isn't duel in the first place, it's deathmatch
No, what he wants is a duel. Equal opponents battling it out. What it is currently is 1 vs 1 DM. 
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In DM the main objective is fragging, in duel the main objective is map control so that the fragging gets easier.

Originally posted by CarloThunder

You make a good point here.  Though if i used the flak cannon or rocket launcher against someone with a shield belt, it'd probably be considered cheap by those who think the flak and rocket launcher are spam weapons epecially if they were just fired constantly and hope they get lucky.

It may be cheap but it's up to you if you use it.. People may not like it but there's nothing to forbid the use of it or anything. I like to just try and pick off the belt with sniper/shock from distance.
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LOL! This is still being discussed? There's more talk and whining in here than there are people that's actually playing da fn game. On that note, somebody challenge me and remy to a 2 vs 2 on the ladders :>
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Remember the good ol' days when a duel was just walking ten paces, turning around and shooting? The old school guys used to complain when duelers first started dodging and hiding behind stuff. They'd roll over in their grave if they found out you could actually protect yourself or use the weapons available.

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drokun there really isnt a point in discussing this with people who dont even play the mode they obviously dont understand the concept of 1:sportsmanship 2: official tournament rules they have been placed way before this game even came out 3: competition
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Originally posted by Drokun

In DM the main objective is fragging, in duel the main objective is map control so that the fragging gets easier.

Originally posted by CarloThunder

You make a good point here.  Though if i used the flak cannon or rocket launcher against someone with a shield belt, it'd probably be considered cheap by those who think the flak and rocket launcher are spam weapons epecially if they were just fired constantly and hope they get lucky.

It may be cheap but it's up to you if you use it.. People may not like it but there's nothing to forbid the use of it or anything. I like to just try and pick off the belt with sniper/shock from distance.
 
I think we'll have to agree to differ on this issue lol.  I respect your opinion though.
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Originally posted by ReverendCrow

drokun there really isnt a point in discussing this with people who dont even play the mode they obviously dont understand the concept of 1:sportsmanship 2: official tournament rules they have been placed way before this game even came out 3: competition
So, you are trying to enforce the rules of a different game on UT3. Interesting.
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drokun there really isnt a point in discussing this with people who dont even play the mode they obviously dont understand the concept of 1:sportsmanship 2: official tournament rules they have been placed way before this game even came out 3: competition
sorry to say this crow but its complete fabrication n bull**** about offical tournament rules not allowing you to use amps or even the redeemer! thats the word from epic n if you check out the duels on you tube on the pc duel comp you will c them using all of these things!! you are allways going on about ut3 dm n duel is dead no competition to many noobs= dont you think if the established duelers lightened up a bit got off there pedestals n understood the concept of regardless the mode if its in the map u can use it that this might attract some more players to these modes???
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Quake Duel rules are the same as ut duel rules.
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