Religion and Politics

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by TX2k7 Originally posted by syzygy people aren't evil! its Satan and his minions decieving, influencing and minipulating people! Satan is acually the biggest pu'ssy that has ever existed! his cowardess is legendary! as i understand it, satan merely provides the temptation for evil, in the end its still our choice...so ull forgive me when i say that sounds like the biggest cop-out not to take responsibility for our own actions. have you heard of someone being posessed? Satan and his minions can go way beyond temptation. taking responsibility for your own actions and asking for forgivness is a part of Christianity. i was stating that by nature man isn't evil, and that its Satan that wants man to do evil so he can obtain there soul upon there death.   Syszygy do you believe in the story of Adam and Eve? i believe in Jesus!   well if you believe in stories aobut the bible and jesus , then you would see that TX is talking about how Eve was tempted with an apple, satan didnt force her to have it. i took TX's as meaning in general, he didn't even give an example. your assuming Eve is what he was talking about, but i didn't make that same assumption. so why would i mention Eve in my response to TX?

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by TX2k7 Originally posted by syzygy people aren't evil! its Satan and his minions decieving, influencing and minipulating people! Satan is acually the biggest pu'ssy that has ever existed! his cowardess is legendary! as i understand it, satan merely provides the temptation for evil, in the end its still our choice...so ull forgive me when i say that sounds like the biggest cop-out not to take responsibility for our own actions. have you heard of someone being posessed? Satan and his minions can go way beyond temptation. taking responsibility for your own actions and asking for forgivness is a part of Christianity. i was stating that by nature man isn't evil, and that its Satan that wants man to do evil so he can obtain there soul upon there death.   Syszygy do you believe in the story of Adam and Eve? i believe in Jesus!   well if you believe in stories aobut the bible and jesus , then you would see that TX is talking about how Eve was tempted with an apple, satan didnt force her to have it. i took TX's as meaning in general, he didn't even give an example. your assuming Eve is what he was talking about, but i didn't make that same assumption. so why would i mention Eve in my response to TX?   If you read what I typed i clearly said that was what  TX was talking about, your retort was that you didn't realise that? lol ,oh ya and i almost forgot, most people in history who claim to have been possessed by a demon actually were cases of schizophrenia no i just didn't make any assumption about TX's point. i took it he ment it in general terms because he wasn't specific, and he never gave an example. your try'n to imply that i should of known that TX was speaking of Eve if im acually smart at all instead of just adding to the descussion. you must not have much to add? oh and it seems that schizophrenia diagnosis are very common atm? hm?

well well looks like you were wrong Pendulum :) assumption will get you every time.. there's no way of knowing how many people in history have been posessed, but it is known that possesion is real. which shows that Saton and his minions have more power then just temptation. which was the point in my response.

Originally posted by -DaGoN- Well syz tbh, it is known that possession is real just like it is known that god is real....

possesion is the main proof that GOD and satan exist Dagon. there's being possesed by good, and there's being possesed by evil. in a lot of those cases wether the person is possesed by good or evil, they speak in ancient languages that theyve never even heard spoken. now skeptics can always claim they have a reasonable explanation for everything, but there's just too many credible people that have experienced possesion first hand either by being possesed, or by being on hand when someone else is possesed.

like ive said before.. i don't just believe.. i know!

Originally posted by ax412 don't be a thomas ;)

lol Thomas Eddison? :)

Originally posted by ax412 lol no noob ahaha and that wasnt for you ;) basically like the latter part of the Gospels where thomas wouldnt believe Jesus rose until he saw Him. in other words if u cant see it then its not real - thomas

lol i know what u ment :) for me it sucks to know what i know, and still not be able to convince some people of the truth because it does matter! there is evil in the world and its very dangerous, but i guess until people experience it first hand for there self they have no way of knowing just how horrible it is.

it can be defeated though!



   

I only think so because imo humans are not capable of understanding any other concept than the space-time. Not fully. We can just think of something, but you cannot prove something, that's from a completely different concept, in our reality.

Nah, I don't agree. I got your post, I just wanted you to elaborate more. One thing I like to do is sit outside and listen to a podcast about a particular subject such as this while smoking cigs and pause the lecture and try to picture exacty what they are saying and come up with my own theories. It's fun. Right now it's looking like the multiverse theory is the way to go in my opinion

u guys are going hard in this never ending conversation

Villn thats because they seem to have stopped b****in and gone back to arguing with intellect. Everyone has their own model of "the truth" aka reality so there will always be disagreements. We can ONLY speculate as to what we will find in the future and, I agree with Tuna to some extent, that man will find the answer eventually. The IF is IF we are still alive (I wont say IF the universe ends before we do cos as Dagon says time-space is how we see it but it may not be a universal concept). Also Dagon what did you mean when you said  "I don't think humans are capable (or meant to) understand the beginning of the universe fully." Not meaning to be a smartass im just curious but it implies that the universe is somehow deliberately codified and its secrets are guarded from mankind. So who/what is meant to understand the beginning of the universe fully?

Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy Villn thats because they seem to have stopped b****in and gone back to arguing with intellect. Everyone has their own model of "the truth" aka reality so there will always be disagreements. We can ONLY speculate as to what we will find in the future and, I agree with Tuna to some extent, that man will find the answer eventually. The IF is IF we are still alive (I wont say IF the universe ends before we do cos as Dagon says time-space is how we see it but it may not be a universal concept). Also Dagon what did you mean when you said  "I don't think humans are capable (or meant to) understand the beginning of the universe fully." Not meaning to be a smartass im just curious but it implies that the universe is somehow deliberately codified and its secrets are guarded from mankind. So who/what is meant to understand the beginning of the universe fully?

The "meant to" was for every religious person on here, I guess if you believe in god you could say we humans are not meant to understand the beginning of the universe fully, only our creator (god?) is capable of that. That's IF there is a creator.

already 13+ trillion in debt and Obama thinks its ok to go even further in debt? US tax payers paying interest on 13+ trillion is obserd, and can't be sustained even by a wealthy country like the US especially with the constant government growth. any intelligent person has to come to the conclusion that at best agenda is being put over whats best for the country, and at worse they want this country's economy to callapse. Nov. 2012 needs to get here real quick or we all better start learning to speak Chinese.

Tim Pawlenty is the obvious choice for our next president, but i doubt that he will be pushed as the front runner until its absolutely necessary because once the opposition learns who the front runner is they will focus all there money and effort on him. its just smart polotics.

in the mean time i suggest that everyone start buying a little farm land to grow your own food, and buy a few bicycles :) do the math.   

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