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    Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 3:37pm
using other people's views because there thought to be credible doesn't add much weight to a discussion in my view. i believe that the more intelligent a person is the more they think on there own, therefore they use there own thoughts in a discussion rather then state someone elses opinion. knowing someone elses opinion on a subject or a matter doesn't add to our own credibility at all, and it surely doesn't speak to our own intelligence. knowledge and intelligents are 2 different things.
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Syszygy do you believe in the story of Adam and Eve?
i believe in Jesus!


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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

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Syszygy do you believe in the story of Adam and Eve?
i believe in Jesus!
Just saying


naw you acually aint say'n anything.. well nothing of your own anyway
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Using other people's views because there thought to be credible doesn't add much weight to a discussion in my view. I believe that the more intelligent a person is the more they think on their own. Therefore, they use there own thoughts in a discussion rather then state someone else's opinion. Knowing someone else's opinion on a subject or a matter doesn't add to our own credibility at all, and it surely doesn't speak to our own intelligence. knowledge and intelligence are 2 different things.

If I had cancer, I, without hesitation, would accept the appropriate combination of chemothe****utic drugs, regardless of whether the oncologist discovered it or not.

It is not a matter of creation and ownership of ideas, but rather of evaluating and discerning perceived truth. No sense in reinventing a physical wheel or an incorporeal idea of the wheel.
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i think there's some future or current english professors on here lol you do realise that spelling and grammer are just memorization don't you? :)

no need to re-envent the wheel is your response? you still aint really say'n anything then? what does Han Fei think? and not about me or my grammer because im not the subject.. try'n to clown me is just a waste of time because it can't really be done

anyone can read and quote religious, politicol or scientific theory's written by other people, but there not on this site we are
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

using other people's views because there thought to be credible doesn't add much weight to a discussion in my view. i believe that the more intelligent a person is the more they think on there own, therefore they use there own thoughts in a discussion rather then state someone elses opinion. knowing someone elses opinion on a subject or a matter doesn't add to our own credibility at all, and it surely doesn't speak to our own intelligence. knowledge and intelligents are 2 different things.

the Bible is another person's view if u think about it...well i guess a few people's view since it was composed by multiple people....but if ur asking for original thought, it stands to reason that ur concept of God, how u view it, as well as ur concept of Jesus, amongst a number of ideas & beliefs are a credit to the writings of people.
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

using other people's views because there thought to be credible doesn't add much weight to a discussion in my view. i believe that the more intelligent a person is the more they think on there own, therefore they use there own thoughts in a discussion rather then state someone elses opinion. knowing someone elses opinion on a subject or a matter doesn't add to our own credibility at all, and it surely doesn't speak to our own intelligence. knowledge and intelligents are 2 different things.
the Bible is another person's view if u think about it...well i guess a few people's view since it was composed by multiple people....but if ur asking for original thought, it stands to reason that ur concept of God, how u view it, as well as ur concept of Jesus, amongst a number of ideas & beliefs are a credit to the writings of people.


do you see me throwing out bible passages to try to prove what i believe, and why? no! :)
for me.. once you truly believe in Jesus.. its then that you believe in what he had to say, and not before.. my concept of GOD is totally open.. i don't pretend to know GOD.. it would take a long time to really know a person let alone something that could create everything in existance.. i never put the cart before the horse, and i try never to make assumptions.. everything is always open for further analisys.. my view will differ from the next persons view to a degree. just like that persons view will differ from the next persons view.. but you might as well give your own view instead of someone elses

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lol tuna is correct
Jesus was/is/be the Word (John 1)
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Be awareof the false prophets!
Who is the carrier of light witch is the enemy?
Im not going one more round with this, but al beliefs system is built up with power! And the so called gods had helpers...
The symbolic of the Players involved are huge! Example: 33 fremasons went underground wich date? Phoenix the city is on what Longitude? How many miners were saved from the mine in south america? What was the name of the capsule that saved them?
In order to understand the meaning of numbers, we must sort out the false ones!
The custodials is the false prophets.. We are still waiting for the saving off mankind.
Again I regret not having the english vocabulary to make my views easy for you to see.
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Originally posted by TuNA FISh

Jesus never wrote anything down


you don't know that! assuming Jesus never wrote anything in his whole life would be foolish

if your refering to the new testimate? no he didn't write anything in it himself, but what he had to say is written in it

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Lol ok syz


Tuna you don't haft to believe in GOD, Jesus or Christianity, but you don't haft to speak out, and work against religion either. in Christianity there's GOD, there's Jesus Christ, and there's Christians. you seem to think that you have all the answers, and that its ok to be against GOD, Christ and Christians. thats being anti GOD, anti Christ, and anti Christian. there's a difference in just not believing, and try'n to convince others to be against GOD, Jesus and Christians.

as Christians were supposed to spread the word. you say that you don't believe in anything so why would you be anti anything?

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I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm voicing my opinion which is the point of this thread. You're the one trying to convince everyone which makes you a hypocrite.
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hypocrite Tuna? im a Christian, and Christains are supposed to spread the word about Jesus, but you have stated that religious people are just stupid people that just aren't smart enough to realise how ignorant believing in GOD and Jesus acually is. your acually bitter towards religion. it almost sound like hate at times?

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You're taking my words out of context. Listen to how arrogant you sound lol I have a right to post whatever I want. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I hate Christians.
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retard, senile, redneck, hillbilly, imbred, hypocritical and now arrogant? i probably left out a quite a few, but im sure you get the idea. whatever you are Tuna? im just glad im not that :)
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

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Lol ok syz


Tuna you don't haft to believe in GOD, Jesus or Christianity, but you don't haft to speak out, and work against religion either. in Christianity there's GOD, there's Jesus Christ, and there's Christians. you seem to think that you have all the answers, and that its ok to be against GOD, Christ and Christians. thats being anti GOD, anti Christ, and anti Christian. there's a difference in just not believing, and try'n to convince others to be against GOD, Jesus and Christians.

as Christians were supposed to spread the word. you say that you don't believe in anything so why would you be anti anything?

You forgot anti holy ghost. ;)
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lol you've really grown as a person Dagon
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The nearest scriptures we have according to the world of science is the dead sea scrolls...and yes Jesus is NOT mentioned. I guess that is puzzling given that he would have been a subject of much debate at the time. However the Essenes (people who made the scrolls) were isolated in the wilderness, cut off from society because were a sect.
The New Testament gospels were completed some 150 years after Jesus's time. Yes Jesus DID exist, and he was a remarkable, extraordinary being. Whether he was the Son of God/Spirit of God in human form or whatever is something worth debating. Whether he wrote or not is irrelevant. He didn't leave his thoughts/teachings in writing but that doesn't make any difference because people will still interpret words and make sense of them (or not) for their own needs. Some people believe that William Shakespeare was not the originator of his plays or that he didn't even write them. But it doesn't seem to have devalued the words/sentiments in the plays that have influenced cultures for generations.
Belief is down to the individual, its about conviction NOT evidence. There are some points in your life you will be required to place your trust in others, if you require proof/hard evidence/ a guarantee then no real trust will exist. But if concrete proof is the only way you measure the world in which you inhabit then it'll be a frustrating existence.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 11:58am
thinks/reasons? how can so many people be so nieve? let me assure you of this Trinity. i think and reason on a scale that you just don't understand. genius means ignorant to me! im sure you wont even know what i mean by that, but you can give it a try if you like?

more importantly.. people better look around the world and see whats acually happening. last second saves may or may not be possible? atleast im trying though!!!
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The nearest scriptures we have according to the world of science is the dead sea scrolls...and yes Jesus is NOT mentioned. I guess that is puzzling given that he would have been a subject of much debate at the time. However the Essenes (people who made the scrolls) were isolated in the wilderness, cut off from society because were a sect.
The New Testament gospels were completed some 150 years after Jesus's time. Yes Jesus DID exist, and he was a remarkable, extraordinary being. Whether he was the Son of God/Spirit of God in human form or whatever is something worth debating. Whether he wrote or not is irrelevant. He didn't leave his thoughts/teachings in writing but that doesn't make any difference because people will still interpret words and make sense of them (or not) for their own needs. Some people believe that William Shakespeare was not the originator of his plays or that he didn't even write them. But it doesn't seem to have devalued the words/sentiments in the plays that have influenced cultures for generations.
Belief is down to the individual, its about conviction NOT evidence. There are some points in your life you will be required to place your trust in others, if you require proof/hard evidence/ a guarantee then no real trust will exist. But if concrete proof is the only way you measure the world in which you inhabit then it'll be a frustrating existence.
Tuna you are right to question and disagree. I actually prefer someone who thinks/reasons because my understanding will be greater once I have an answer. But and Syz are digging up old beef which doesn't help out either side. 
You can't just look at the extreme and take it as a point. It's not about always requiring hard proof or always placing trust in others.
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the mind can be decieved, and even decieve itself Dagon. logic only gets you so far. faith and hope carry you the rest of the way.

Jesus is the 1 person truly worth believing in. i consider myself pathetic in comparison. his love was, and is true understanding, forgivness and love for all mankind. his word is unconditional love. GOD decides in the end though imo   

thats my final opinion on my Christion religion.   
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Faith and hope IS the mind tho Syz. If you say the mind can be devieved it applies to both:
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Faith and hope IS the mind tho Syz. If you say the mind can be devieved it applies to both:
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-faith because you choose to believe.


faith and hope is the mind? i like that thought Dagon :) the more i learn the more faith and hope keeps me believing
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