Powerups in duel

Originally posted by TuNA FISh drokun, do any of these guys duel? or are they just complaining about nothing?

LOL, no need to get bent out of shape just cuz someone voices an OPINION.

Originally posted by TuNA FISh Originally posted by Drokun Most of the people posting play warfare or vctf figures....

I think PaWwEeZy sold his Ps3, and also they would totally not see the point in it.
All you get to see is that whoever gets the udamage is likely to steal all map control back and get a few frags in 30 seconds, then the other guy takes back map control at the next udamage..

The only reason they're still on the maps in duel is that UTComp has never been cooked for Ps3 in any form.

Originally posted by Drokun The uDamage is too powerfull for map control; it makes all controller any other armor neglectible. Also matches would last just as much as competitive matches are 15 minutes no kill limit

Still, it would be interesting to see a match between two duelers who are pretty much equal using the udamage, berzerk, etc.  Say, for instance,  the two fellows who came in 1st and 2nd in the recent duel tournament. 

drokun, do any of these guys duel? or are they just complaining about nothing? 

Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT well.. this is just what ive got to say... i agree with drokun.. think about it.. ok so if 1 guy picks up the SB, 1 guy picks up Udamage for a "counterbalance" it will take 2 secs to get the SB off of him.. then your left with 28 secs left. and the other guy dont have anything.. so then you have the advantage for over 20 secs.. in that time u can spawn kill.. and spawn killing is annoying but with u damage it would be worse.. 2 or 3 extra undeserved kills. a udamage or beserk etc cant be called a counter balance because it it much more of an advantage than a shield belt. even if some guy has 199 health and 200 armour.. thats just 2 flak balls with a Udamage. and as drokun said.. it ruins the strategy and map control element of the game. apart from that you shouldnt be letting them get all of that. you should be fighting for the same armour,sb that the other player is... if they get it. its your fault.....   if they have more arnour than u then u just gotta be skilled enough to hit him one extra time with a rccket,flak ball,shock combo whatever while dodging his shots. and still should have gained some extra health,armour for yourself anyway. shouldnt be too hard.. but beating someone with a UD/beserk etc will be much more of a challenge than someone with a sb.... for example. if a real good dueller (a) plays someone not as good (b)..   if B picks up the sb all the time... A would still win and the sb wouldnt of made a difference for B.. however if B constantly picked up UD.. theres more chance of that guy winning or comming close at least..

Before I put my two cents in let me say that I would never pick up the redeemer, berserk, etc. in a duel..... however just for argument's sake :    You duelers are always going on about map control, how is it still not BETTER map control if you are able to get these super pickups before your opponent ?  If you fight for control of all the other things (shield belt and so forth), isn't it the same thing?  You say ..."if they get it. its your fault"....  well, if you allow them to pick up the udamage and berzerk it's still your fault and shows that the guy you are fighting has better map control than you.

well.. this is just what ive got to say... i agree with drokun.. think about it.. ok so if 1 guy picks up the SB, 1 guy picks up Udamage for a "counterbalance" it will take 2 secs to get the SB off of him.. then your left with 28 secs left. and the other guy dont have anything.. so then you have the advantage for over 20 secs.. in that time u can spawn kill.. and spawn killing is annoying but with u damage it would be worse.. 2 or 3 extra undeserved kills. a udamage or beserk etc cant be called a counter balance because it it much more of an advantage than a shield belt. even if some guy has 199 health and 200 armour.. thats just 2 flak balls with a Udamage. and as drokun said.. it ruins the strategy and map control element of the game. apart from that you shouldnt be letting them get all of that. you should be fighting for the same armour,sb that the other player is... if they get it. its your fault.....   if they have more arnour than u then u just gotta be skilled enough to hit him one extra time with a rccket,flak ball,shock combo whatever while dodging his shots. and still should have gained some extra health,armour for yourself anyway. shouldnt be too hard.. but beating someone with a UD/beserk etc will be much more of a challenge than someone with a sb.... for example. if a real good dueller (a) plays someone not as good (b)..   if B picks up the sb all the time... A would still win and the sb wouldnt of made a difference for B.. however if B constantly picked up UD.. theres more chance of that guy winning or comming close at least..

naw i supply the cream, no sloppy seconds , u crazy for rolling like that  damn; u a supa freak supa freak supa freakkaaayyyyyyy

wow , this arguement is still going on, on a lighter note jessica alba's a** is still round and peachy , and i love me some peaches hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by Danjel8 Thing is they are on the map... its like saying don't use the tank this way or that way... I never use the redeemer or UD but I wouldn't send someone a message calling them a b**** if they did. I suck at duel so maybe its not that important to me but I'd guess that in 95% of games if a weaker player did take the UD or redeemer the stronger player would win. I only think it would make a big difference in the outcome if say Paw and Remy were playing each other (or players similar) and they managed to get 3 spawn kills on the other player. But of course when Paw and Remy play they know to leave this well alone.

Thing is they are on the map... its like saying don't use the tank this way or that way...

I never use the redeemer or UD but I wouldn't send someone a message calling them a b**** if they did. I suck at duel so maybe its not that important to me but I'd guess that in 95% of games if a weaker player did take the UD or redeemer the stronger player would win.

I only think it would make a big difference in the outcome if say Paw and Remy were playing each other (or players similar) and they managed to get 3 spawn kills on the other player. But of course when Paw and Remy play they know to leave this well alone.

Originally posted by Drokun Stop bragging that you're playing an 18+ game, you're really awesome we get it.

But its reallly funny.  And probably impressive to anyone who is like 10 years old.

Originally posted by RemY Originally posted by Striderfx Originally posted by COKKENBALLS Complaining about what is available in the map is ridiculous. How can you complain about what is given to you in the map? To use another mode as an example. Last night on Downtown, TX27 kept sniping my whole team. He was tearing us up with the sniper rifle. Now, it was annoying and I made some pithy comments between matches but, I had to let it go. Why? Because the sniper rifle is offered on that map. TX27 used it and used it well. Why whine about it? His sniping wasn't effective enough though, we won on Downtown. The power ups are offered, deal with it. Do you want to know why this game has had such staying power with us? It's because it offers so much to so many people. It doesn't just cater to those with the best reflexes or map knowledge. It offeres a unique set of tools, terrain and situations. That uniqueness allows players like myself the opportunity to outsmart players with more natural ability.   In short, what I am trying to say is this. If all of you are half as good as you tout yourselves as being, you should be able to overcome a noob with a redeemer or flak cannon. Cheers. couldnt agree more!! You guys have no idea why epic and ID added AMP/Redeemer/Berserker/invisibility into this game. Just guess! Here's a clue!Fill in the blankIt destroys _____ control.A single weapon cannot change a whole outcome of a game unless its a deemer >_>

yawn allways the same ol bull**** frm the same bull**** playas! knw wonder why duel is dead! i have never heard more geeky care bear whiny a** crying than i have from duelers!! its a 18 cert game who cares about ethics of duel!! go buy kung fu panda i heard u can get it over there 4 10 dollars!!