VCTF is not a DM

imo thats like saying the other team is to good for you. if you cant find out a way around that, your going to lose. i dont see anything wrong with 3 players doing a good job shutting you down the victory. but thats why i think suspense sucks major a**. camping and sniping mid field helps shut down the other team, and protects your flag runners. thats the whole point of that map. camp the tank, snipe better than the other team = you will most likey win =/

Originally posted by _EnVy_ imo thats like saying the other team is to good for you. if you cant find out a way around that, your going to lose. i dont see anything wrong with 3 players doing a good job shutting you down the victory. but thats why i think suspense sucks major a**. camping and sniping mid field helps shut down the other team, and protects your flag runners. thats the whole point of that map. camp the tank, snipe better than the other team = you will most likey win =/

i hate to say it but he is right. sniping is just a superior tactic in suspense. unlike putting the tank on the flag however, it can be countered from across the map.

suspense was designed with unique protection to the snipers. it is the only map where I am guaranteed a rampage with the sniper rifle. the map gets picked often and I play it to the best of my ability. I snipe there because that is my strongest area of ut3, sniping. if 2 or 3 other guys are also sniping....I promise its only a coincidence. we aren't ganging up or teaming up or even aware of what the other is doing.

 i was in a match with two fase tonight exactly like the one he is talking about. me and a couple others were shutting down the other team with a few snipers, my self included. because I like twofase, I felt bad when I headshotted him and the screen flashed that"twofase has left the game" meaning his head was only on the floor because he had paused the game to press "quit" as i fired on him.
 
the thing is, i won't flag run when there are stronger flag runners than my self (which is basically always) ready to try for the flag. it doesn't make sense. so i try to be as effecient as possible with my strongest weapon. i snipe.

unlike putting a vehicle on the flag, a sniper hidden in one base can take out a sniper hidden in the other base (in suspense). you can't blow up a vehicle parked on the flag from your own base. if you have strong snipers....you can keep the other teams snipers in check. if you don't have strong snipers.....you will just get outgunned. there was no team stacking going on.....the teams got divided how they did and the snipers all ended up on one side. you know im a big fan of you twofase but as you say, "sometimes it bes like that" in suspense. in retrospect, maybe i should have switched teams but when you left (i would have been looking for the other snipers....lol), i am almost sure it was a scoreless match.

I've been on about this for ages... next time your in a clan match and your running that flag back I know I'd rather have headhunter backing me up with the sniper rifle than some guy flying a raptor.

Yes it's annoying, yes it's a bit gay but it is part of the game. Not every player can defend, attack, support and use vehicles. Wish they could but in reality its like life, your good at somethings. Crap at others. Can't blame them for sticking to what they do best. If 4/8 people are doing it you should be able to beat them easily, raptor/fury/viper pick ups..

I can agree with the arguement that this tactic is sometimes used to simply halt the game and rack up kills.  I find it annoying and stupid and simply move on to a different server when I see it.  No matter who the culprits are.

Originally posted by Arkos315 Originally posted by AqUaKnOt I can agree with the arguement that this tactic is sometimes used to simply halt the game and rack up kills.  I find it annoying and stupid and simply move on to a different server when I see it.  No matter who the culprits are.   However, in a clan match or semi-organized pug, this is a tactic that is very effective at ending a match quickly and IMO it should only be used that way. But, who am I to tell anyone else how to play a game they paid for?  They might just be practicing for a clan match.  Then again, they may just be trying to annoy you   hey aqua u should of seen da 2 headshots i got on D yesterday it was FANTASTIC!!!!

Originally posted by AqUaKnOt Originally posted by Arkos315 Originally posted by AqUaKnOt I can agree with the arguement that this tactic is sometimes used to simply halt the game and rack up kills.  I find it annoying and stupid and simply move on to a different server when I see it.  No matter who the culprits are.   However, in a clan match or semi-organized pug, this is a tactic that is very effective at ending a match quickly and IMO it should only be used that way. But, who am I to tell anyone else how to play a game they paid for?  They might just be practicing for a clan match.  Then again, they may just be trying to annoy you   hey aqua u should of seen da 2 headshots i got on D yesterday it was FANTASTIC!!!!   LMAO - it only takes one headshot to piss him off completely.  Two probably sent him over the edge!

Who has actually tried KB/M? I did, I felt sick after using it coz I got so disorietated.

I don't see how killing people isn't playing for the win. Just a different tactic that people employ.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with sniping. Its when you have 3-4 out of 8 accomplished snipers camping exit points and sniping to get their headhunter awards or trophies that's the point TWO FASE is making. They aint playing a team game their playing their individual DM. It is so exhausting when this happens cos I dont ever quit a game (unless the wife swiotches off the PS3 when shes p1ssed ) but I feel in these circumstances its justified. Suspense and the multitude of sniper points - people by uDamage, on the avril bridge at the back, over by the health pack. The Necropolis 3-4 on the exit point to the bridge and if not then they're sending hard flak constantly across the bridge or on the floor - flak spam snipe. Yep its a DM alright.

Yep, or you could just pick up a sniper rifle and headshot them back.   The only thing worse than 4 snipers on the other side of the bidge in Necopolis is me on the other end getting 4 headshots in a row to clear the bridge for our flag runner...

Originally posted by AqUaKnOt Yep, or you could just pick up a sniper rifle and headshot them back.   The only thing worse than 4 snipers on the other side of the bidge in Necopolis is me on the other end getting 4 headshots in a row to clear the bridge for our flag runner...

haha or... a flag runner clever enough to call for support from a viper and you get a ride back under the bridge! :)

You can pick someone up by the enemies keg on necro and slingshot them to your keg haha snipe that!

Originally posted by Danjel8 Originally posted by AqUaKnOt Yep, or you could just pick up a sniper rifle and headshot them back.   The only thing worse than 4 snipers on the other side of the bidge in Necopolis is me on the other end getting 4 headshots in a row to clear the bridge for our flag runner... haha or... a flag runner clever enough to call for support from a viper and you get a ride back under the bridge! :) You can pick someone up by the enemies keg on necro and slingshot them to your keg haha snipe that!

Originally posted by Danjel8 There is always a way to get around them, especially on Necro! Nightshade :)

lol ur too much man