Keyboard & Mouse

Originally posted by MrKshaker someone here tryed frag fx v2?? Thinking of bying one! but not if its a waste...   krister

I bought one (V2) back in May specifically for COD but I tried it on UT3... I couldn't get to grips with the thing at all. I spent roughly 4 hours with a ton of different settings on 3 games and threw in the towel. On Ut3 I couldn't get it anywhere near my mouse/pad combo set up, even though it had better sensitivity settings! I sent it back for a refund the next day, considering it was £60.

However... this is just my own preference! If I had the time and patience to learn how to use it then it probably be a great controller! I play UT3 with an MX518 and a standard controller, that combo works perfectly for me. I remember when I first got the 518 and thought, sh1t, I'm never going to get used to this, now it fits like a glove and all other mice feel inferior...

I know a few people who play with the FragFX and they are excellent, so it goes to show it does work... it's just whether or not you want to put the time in to get used to another controller.

I'll tell you my getup even though I know when you picture it you will all laugh, lol!  Cuz I know I look like a complete loser when I'm playin...

So...I bring my highback PC desk chair into the living room about 4 feet from the 50" plasma (lol)...then big pillow on my lap...on top of that a big cutting board that houses my keyboard, mouse pad and mouse..cell phone...house phone...and maybe a c***tail.  It's wide enough that both my elbows are on the cutting board...left hand I have the controller right hand mouse....oh and don't forget the air traffic controller style headphones...LOL!

I've got jump at L3 and push to talk on L2.  Primary fire left mouse, secondary fire right mouse and translocater/hover board is mouse 3 (mouse wheel push).


I knew this conversation would go down this road as it always does...the mouse support on UT3 is "ok" at best...when I go play UT3 on PC or QL or some other PC FPS it takes me multiple sessions to get back to aiming normal again.  I think mouse is maybe a little bit of an advantage to people that use the mouse in other games but you really have to practice at it to get good with it...which is the same with a controller....idk...some of the best PS3 players (and also players with the best aim mind you) are controller players...so I don't think it's a matter of one being that much better than the other it's just putting in the time to own with whichever you like best that's all.

Controller v mouse on a PC is an easy call....controller vs mouse on a console depends on the user.

Originally posted by Danjel8 Originally posted by WOPR-1 Try mouse and controller...it's by far the best combination I think. How would that work? I don't think I could hold the controller in one hand and using KB/M makes me feel dizzy and sick when I play. Looks like I'm stuck with the controller.

depends on how you sit you put ur controller kinda on your thigh to keep it steady and in ur hand instead of falling out mouse with ur right hand (obviously) L1 jump L2 talk thats pretty much it oh and Mouse three (push in scroll) to get in and out of vehicles hoverboard or use translocator to self destruct you press in L1 and then mouse 3  taaadaaaa its a bit more difficult to maneuver a vehicle though

i have recently bought UT 2004 and playing with mouse and keyboard takes ALOT of practice. However, with this setup i have been forced to get used to smaller hitboxes thus making me a complete and total noob, but hey ya gotta learn the hard way , unless ure b**** made and fear a learning curve ;)

I've tried kbm today - as I played ut3 on pc a bit by now my combos instantly got better in the 1st game I played - But I also noticed how annoying it was compared to the kbm support on pc.
So it's probably better to use, but I prefer playing my controller
(it'll f*** up my PC aim)

Originally posted by ReverendCrow better? its alot more i can say from someone who constantly says mouse is so much superior to controller on the ps3 without even using it

it shouldnt even be a question or even a debate to real gamers in the first place rev...

and i know from gaming on both pc and console, using a mouse has always been easier for me and 99.999% of the players ive talked to about all of that. plus ive done my research on how to make it work for the ps3 properly and how to smooth it out. both for the kbm and the frag effects 1 and now 2. but i just dont like the feel of the frag effects, i still might use the combo controller and mouse, but i feel that would be cheating the majority of the players that dont use that option

Originally posted by INCReMENTAL ***n Oregon Trail, I am mad Envy. I so remember always getting bit by a snake or someone would get TB or my mule would die. Pissed me off.

how about being just under 10 steps from beating the game, and your final character dies of starvation? that was literally the most pissed ive ever been from playing a stupid video game xDD

Originally posted by ReverendCrow 2 years and us till (you still???)havent done it envy faillllll

done what?

Originally posted by ReverendCrow envy quit with the lies second you dont use keyboard and mouse on the ps3 so you dont know the type of support the ps3 has....(???)second(???) yes ive use mouse for gaming on pc also for quit some times but we are talkin about the ps3 we are talkin about a sony computer entertainment product not a PC pc support rules why is it that you dont play on the ps3 with mouse if your so pro at it?

yeah your right ive never heard of researching it on the web, nor have i ever once talked to players that use the kbm on the ps3...

Originally posted by INCReMENTAL Lol oregon trail, I so remember that but not much mouse usage there plus wasn't that like early 90s

lmao hell nah they had that **** when i was in the 3rd grade back in 86 on floppy. i guess you could search it and find out =/

I wouldn't recommend the fragfx v2.  It is quirky in many ways, the controller portion is uncomfortably designed, and the mouse moves at different speeds along the x axis compared to the y axis.  I played with it for about 3 days, now it collects dust on the shelf.  Yay, $80 dustbunny collector!!!!

Lol @ Envy. Its not that mouse > controller.

It that MY MOUSE > YOUR CONTROLLER.

Lol, ggs lastnight, had a blast.

I won my mouse a year ago in a small LAN at penn state.  People say Razer sucks, but it doesn't.

Why when you can use a mouse and keyboard