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    Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 6:20am
we all started of as noobs right (well im not sure about some of you kik a.ss guys) but how do we improve so much. who you play with? or being a saddo n not coming of UT all day i mean you BEV jke or even youre button lay out? what do you think

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The good mainly get good by playing competitively - Fastest way to improve is to play someone better than you and learn from your mistakes.
Therefore by my definition, there are few good players on this game.
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I can't really reply on this one cause I'm still working on the subject ... besides DM & TDM I can't really say I'm good on other modes.
 
But I'm trying to improve on DUEL with you, of course, and with someone else which I rampaged the other day Big smile (justice is finally done, cause until today he was the one winning all the games 90% of the time)  
 
 
 
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This thread reminds me of a poll I wanted to make a while back.
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great minds think alike lol n do u mean thirll kill valjonie i heard you rampaged him n so did bev loln would i improve if i moved 2 kb/m or mouse n controller???

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Originally posted by DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT

great minds think alike lol n do u mean thirll kill valjonie i heard you rampaged him n so did bev loln would i improve if i moved 2 kb/m or mouse n controller???
 
 
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make the poll drokun :P...
and i probly improved by playing players better than me and getting taught things by other people mainly shinobi also remy,
also watching good players in duel and playing them such as remy, rico, kali, paw, phant, inc etc..
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ohhh okaii n greeny are u KB/M?
n thrill doesn't beat bev anymore ya no

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KaL1 is controller, not sure Greeny.

Originally posted by DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT

great minds think alike lol n do u mean thirll kill valjonie i heard you rampaged him n so did bev loln would i improve if i moved 2 kb/m or mouse n controller???

kbm is probably a bit easier if you bother to get used to it, although your movement might get worse with it
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i want to get better at duel maybe someone like you could teach me a few things maybe

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I'd probably suck at teaching.
RemY had this topic open about teaching people duel a while ago, I think he's too busy lately though to help people.
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im currently trying to help vajohn out but it is difficult for people to stop jumping back out with low health n not to chase you when you have more helath and armor and especially not to rush in when youve only just got the shield belt 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote valjohn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 7:41am
Originally posted by DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT

im currently trying to help vajohn out but it is difficult for people to stop jumping back out with low health n not to chase you when you have more helath and armor and especially not to rush in when youve only just got the shield belt 
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YOU TRAITOR !!!!! Tongue I would jump with more healh and full armor if you wouldn't take everything each time, you stingy !!!!
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This is gonna sound daft but part of what has made me a better player than when i first started is thinking one step ahead, i.e, guess where the other player is gonna be in a few seconds.  This has proved very effective for me for when i win a lot in dm and also in vctf when im going after the flag carrier.
 
Another method i use is to just go crazy and keep moving, its obvious but moving bloody quick will make you harder to kill of course, specially from snipers. Smile
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i usually play with contoller , sometimes kb/m hardly ever though, and sometimes i play with mouse and controller .....mainly controller only though... sensitivity full and turn accel full
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Originally posted by DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT

ohhh okaii n greeny are u KB/M?
n thrill doesn't beat bev anymore ya no


haha, thanks conner

i'm still nowhere near decent by a long shot but playing with better players, grinning and bearing the 10 to 0 duel thrashings and accepting any help thats been offered to me has made me improve.

and if you really want someone to help you with duel i can recommend kali, he's not only a brilliant dueller but a good teacher too
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Its definately a given to know who the great players are and what they do to become it. Its like if your a great player your friends with a lot of the other great players cause they like to play with competition which results in you playing with great players all the time which in turns makes u way better.

Once u get it down, its there. Getting it down is the problem and getting there is just a step along with many others. Not everybody started out as a noob, anyone that had played past Unreals or FPS's and was any somewhat competetive then they probably started out UT3 not owning everyone but definately showing early signs of being one of the few great players.

Its amazing how far the competition is off in this game, and as long as we continue playing the same way it will only get worse, not better.

A lot of players play this game and leave ASAP. Some that have ambition start to play with the greats and get better and don't mind to loose every freaking time. They will be the ones that get better.

The ones that play their sad little UT3 deathmatches everyday will get better, but only so much. I feel I'm stuck in the game playing the same players all the time, so therefore I'm only going to get better or stay the same.

Even in the PUGs and stuff, its always the same oh group of players and this is why I feel its so hard for a new player to get good these days. Face it, us good players stick together, we might rival each other but we still stick together.

That's how we all got soooo good...
Currently playing MAG nightly with Wopr, we be owning on SVER n the EF CLAN. UT3 got boring, no competition, nothing else to prove, qM got dat **** on lock.
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I played a sh*t ton of DM full of good people at the time and that eventually made me better. just keep playing and ask people questions. 

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I think most of us that get better do so because we are competitive and hate getting schooled.

I started back when playing Q2 DM.  I got pretty good at it and thought I was the **** and got bored.  So I tried this weird "Capture the flag" option or add on whatnot and immediately got my a** handed to me.  As we all know, pubs spam with DM holds no candle to strategy and facing folks off one on one.  That sorta pissed me off and it took me a while to figure out that "running straight forward and shooting like mad" wasn't a very good strategy.



I think there's a whole thought process shift from the linear DM based approach to understanding the whole reality of a fluid combat situation.  It's also much hard to play.

Then I got ok at pubs CTF and played some private games and again got tooled.  a lot of "wtf? how did they do that / move so fast/ do that trick / i never knew...".  And then you go look up the move online, or watch a vid, and practice it offline.

Then you start talking real matches with 4 on 4 and real strategy and again its a new thing.


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Another thing, I'm lazy.  If there are no good players in the game, I can get a few flags.  But I don't do it WELL.  I don't put any effort into running a crazy / fast route back, because I don't have to.

The good players, I notice, almost ALWAYS use their moves, regardless of the competition.  It sorta sucks for the newbs in that case, but its how the good players get and stay good.
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Originally posted by DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT

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I wouldn't exactly say that I always play competitively, but I do have a tendency to go and duel people better me, which is a good portion of people.  I try to learn from my mistakes and when I'm not an active player, watch the competitors and see if there's anything they're doing that I've never done.  If I see something of interest, I'll sometimes try to emulate it and in some cases (depending on how it benefits me and how easy it is to do), I'll start doing it regularly.  Any foot skill I actually have is probably from watching or partaking in duels.

Vehicle-wise, I just watch the flag-runners, the top vehicle killers, and whatever, in order to figure out how to improve.  Generally though, I've been working on my team skills more than anything, because I'm not exactly the best communicator.  If I'm in a battle with a flag carrier or one his/ her cohorts, I usually won't say anything until after I die and sometimes, I'll forget to say anything about it, as I'll quickly try and get back at them, because I can be a fairly vengeful person at times.  Actually, being vengeful in general is one of my main weaknesses, as it leads to my stupid suicide runs and most of my bad mistakes.
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more like how did i get so bad? haha
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