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    Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 7:53pm
Originally posted by Ppareja76

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someones gotta keep these old fvcks in deep from dieing, if i didn't have to worry bout fluffy all the time, i'd be cappin left and right like i use to ;)

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in my opinion the best flag runs are the ones were you cant be seen
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someones gotta keep these old fvcks in deep from dieing, if i didn't have to worry bout fluffy all the time, i'd be cappin left and right like i use to ;)


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Originally posted by -DaGoN-

Alright, IMO these are the basics for a good VCTF flag run:

1. Prepare yourself:

1.1 THE most important thing for a good flag run is getting jump boots. It is useless to go in without, if by some reason you land in the enemy base and you don’t have jump boots, yeah then you can go for it if you think you stand a chance, but if it's a clan match or a match against a really good team then you should better kill yourself than wasting time.

1.2 Get extra health. Pick up as many health vials as you can find on your way to the enemy base, don’t go to every single place though cause it will surely happen that you take two minutes before a flag run and then when you have maximum health you get ran over by a Manta etc.. And that’s frustrating. So yeah, try to get at least the armor vest, maybe also the keg and shield belt, if you play in a clan war you can just talk to your teammates and ask them not to take the keg and shield belt. This also works in public servers, but then you must be there before the extra health respawns or a noob will just take it and then get killed.

1.3 Get the weapons you might be forced to use during your flag run (you must have a longbow, the rest is your personal thing, I personally try to always have link, flak, sniper, rocket and shock rifle with me). You can usually pick most of them up on your way to the flag and while you get jump boots and extra health. If you want (I personally don’t do it very often) you can try to get the redeemer before you go in, if you know how to use it right it could provide you a safe escape. But it might go wrong and then you are dead, all for nothing.

1.4 Tell your teammates before you go in for a flag run, they can give you good cover that is often needed in the midfield.

 
2. Check the situation:

2.1 Check the teams, are there many snipers in this match ? Any players who you know really good and what they will do/where they will stand ?

2.2 Check the base for any camping vehicles.

2.3 Check for camping players on foot.

BTW Don’t think that you need to check every single place in their base, I don’t even really stop to look I just look around while I’m going in, it’s not like you have to scout.

 
3. Plan your flag run:

3.1 After you checked the situation you can decide where you will go. Look for the best way to avoid campers and snipers or where it’s the easiest to kill them. You will get a feeling for this really soon.

3.2 Check if you can get pass the camping vehicles in their base, if for example a tank is camping on the flag then you should tell your teammates and they can help you take down the tank before you try to take the flag and then get immediately killed. If the camping vehicle is not directly on the flag then you might give it a try, but see that you get out of it’s range of fire/sight ASAP.

3.3 A person camping directly on the flag should not be a great problem, they are usually easily taken down, try doing it before you take the flag so he doesn’t see you before you can kill him.

 
4. The actual flag run:

These are just basic tips for flag runs, no instructions on where you should go.

4.1 Don’t go straight forward hoping nobody’s behind you, when you go around a corner and nobody’s on front of you shot a flag ball or better grenades with your rocket launcher back to the corner.

4.2 Do not stay on your hover board longer that 1 second unless someone of your team is with you and can assure you that you won’t be shot off your board. Cause if you do get shot, you are as good as dead. Use your hover board only to do quick dodges (you go on your board only for a really short time, then jump up with your board and then immediately go off your board while you’re still in midair, it makes you really fast. Especially when you do a wall jump after jumping off). If you are being flak spammed, do not go on your board at all unless you have a lot of practice with timing it (meaning if you’re good, you can listen to their shots and you will know when you can go on your board for a second without being shot off it)

4.3 As said, either be really quick OR be really slow by just hiding. They might think “Oh he must be already out of our base, I don’t see him anywhere. Let’s search the midfield!”. This does not work very often though, I wouldn’t count on it, so just try to be as quick as possible.

4.4 Again, encourage your team to provide you good cover ! Always tell them where you will go next, where you need them to be.

4.5 ALWAYS be moving, don’t stop for longer than 1 second, you will get sniped.

4.6 While moving, don’t just go straight forward, keep on jumping, doing side jumps all the time.

4.7 When there is a part on the map where you just have to go straight forward for a long time and where you are exposed to snipers (like on the bridge on Suspense) do a side jump (or if possible a wall jump) and then use a pair of jump boots. NOTE: doing side jumps and then using jump boots gets you further (and wall jumps even further) than just jumping normal and using jump boots. This is for not being shot so easily by snipers or other players.

4.8 Be aware before scoring the flag, check for someone waiting for you on the flag, check for incoming vehicles. There’s nothing more frustrating than doing an epic flag run and then you get killed just before scoring it (last second save).

 
 
That’s about it, for the basic routes where you can go on every map, just figure them out yourself or watch other players. I will not explain every single flag run on every map. But I will give some special tips for some vctf maps:
 
Suspense: Take the enemy jump boots. Go in soon after you take them, then when you have the flag they will respawn right when you are at their jump boots again and BAM you have three new jump boots without having to wait for them.

Necropolis:Do not stay on the bridge. Jump off , and when you’re under the bridge try switching sides, then stay on one side and then switch again, it will confuse the enemy. If your team has the darkwalker, try being mostly on the darkwalker side cause he can give great cover.

Sandstorm:Learn the hammer jumps. And don’t think you’re safe when you are in the redeemer tunnel, keep on sidejumping and most important take your longbow out , the redeemer is usually where vehicles will come after you. So turn around and look for any vehicles, then shoot them down.

Kargo:This map is OPTIMAL for doing the hoverboard dodges, because there are so many walls. It’s so much fun when you can do the jumps, you can be effing fast here. You can go different routes, it doesn’t matter because you can do the dodges everywhere in this map. Just help your team to get the tank and once you are in the midfield you should easily be able to score it. Try staying out of the area under the boat, because if you get killed there, the flag will be returned immediately.

I hope this helps some players who are trying to become a good flag runner. Please, feel free to post more advices. :)

I take credit for this entire post, since I damn well created the "good Flagrun" on UT3 PS3 and everybody else learned from my mastery. Look it up, or just check the leaderboards.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote summ3rblink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 3:57am
Really nice tutorial, kudos 4 you Clap
It's always good that the best ones share their knowledge and dont keep it under their buckets LOL
 
I'm waiting your tutorial in video format also, now that would be awesomeTongue
 
 
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do pick ups n hoverboard it like coolworx XD
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ThAtSmAtT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 8:02am
lunar stop thinking your the grand master of ut3 vctf, you havent played in over a year and most of the good active players today would be better than u ever was... the only things ive saw u post on this website is mainly bragging... why do it when you havent played in ages?... your'e ut3 days are over now man get over yourself
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theres a very simple fact of a good flag run... let XxGeNesiSVIIxX grab the flag :P lol
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Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT

theres a very simple fact of a good flag run... let XxGeNesiSVIIxX grab the flag :P lol
yes, but it continues:
 
-->... and let him make the flag run trough the whole Containment map and notice in that in scoring position  Summerblink is there with hijacked Goliath camping right on the flag-->turn in to a mushy pile of minced meat-->let Summerblink return the flag. Post the results to iotd -thread LOL
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LOOOOL haha damn you for reminding me of that hahaha... good times lol. but i didnt even notice u were there until i jump booted it up to the flag area.. i saw u and was like.. aweee shiiii.. and then yes your'e right... i was turned into mince meat LOL
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"or just check the leaderboards" i just noticed this lol.... just because you are at the top 10 in the leaderboards... does not mean you are a top 10 player.. not anymore... the leaderboards mean nothing anyway..
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Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT

"or just check the leaderboards" i just noticed this lol.... just because you are at the top 10 in the leaderboards... does not mean you are a top 10 player.. not anymore... the leaderboards mean nothing anyway..
i distinctly remember u loving rank XD lol
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How bout, you just drop into the flag room....f*** **** up...take it...cap it
 
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Haha Paw style eh ? ;D
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Get lost Luna.
Or get on the game.
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Originally posted by -DaGoN-

Haha Paw style eh ? ;D
haha yea pretty much....
 
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Mhh much better than a while ago. I take it you're doing pretty good also ?
I respect your work. :)
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yes im doing great haha, i have an urge to play ut3 but im ps3'less :/
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paul find a ride to my crib and you can play on my ps3. id pick you up but im lazy
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:09pm
thats some noob ass flag run advise Dagon :) id rather hear Khantusions advise lol
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You be trollin'

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yes im doing great haha, i have an urge to play ut3 but im ps3'less :/
Yh it would be sweet to see you on the game again
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Originally posted by -DaGoN-

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naw thats just my opinion.. ask your team for back up in a pub? lol not 1 useful thing in the whole flag run post!
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Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT

"or just check the leaderboards" i just noticed this lol.... just because you are at the top 10 in the leaderboards... does not mean you are a top 10 player.. not anymore... the leaderboards mean nothing anyway..


Funny how I show upon these forums and site traffic goes up 300% the next day.

I have solidified my place as a UT3 elite, and I'm honestly the main reason why anyone plays VCTF competitively. I taught all the greats how to play, and yes some have evolved tremendously since then but without great competition to play against, you really prove nothing but your loyalty to the franchise, which must be admired.

Check yer facts soon. I ****d when the game was in it's heyday and I'll surely be back better than ever in 2012 when hopefully a new UT drops along with the newest hardware and Unreal Engine.

Patience will be my greatest strategic advantage.
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lol, yes you and your team was good.. at a time when everyone was average and only beginning to get good.. which is why u stood out then... because you were a couple of steps ahead of people who were just decent.... however.. the players that were decent back that are now good or very good.. i i can guarentee that the level of which you and your team was at back then played against the good or top players of today... it would not be pretty... and even against a team such as me, pinnacle, dragov, terror and dagon for example... i doubt you would stand a chance now....
i do have respect for the black cats since they obviously were the first good team in vctf and laid down the foundations of vctf for the years to come...
what i dont have respect for is the fact that aftre years of playing the game u come in here still thinking that you and your clan are top dog and are still the best in vctf without considering the fact that obviously since 2 years all the players would obviosuly improve big time in not only killing but in vctf strategy too... all the big moves what you lot nwould of pulled of back in the day and all the top flag runs back then.. are now simply the flag runs used by pretty much everybody.. along with more... your team was great vback in the day but wouldnt keep up with the players of now.. or a year ago (when the game was more active)...
also i dont havfe anything to prove... i was around in your times but in dm.. then i went to warfare and made a name for myself there.... and eventually made a name for myself in every mode...
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