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    Posted: 07 May 2010 at 2:32pm

Alright, IMO these are the basics for a good VCTF flag run:

1. Prepare yourself:

1.1 THE most important thing for a good flag run is getting jump boots. It is useless to go in without, if by some reason you land in the enemy base and you don’t have jump boots, yeah then you can go for it if you think you stand a chance, but if it's a clan match or a match against a really good team then you should better kill yourself than wasting time.

1.2 Get extra health. Pick up as many health vials as you can find on your way to the enemy base, don’t go to every single place though cause it will surely happen that you take two minutes before a flag run and then when you have maximum health you get ran over by a Manta etc.. And that’s frustrating. So yeah, try to get at least the armor vest, maybe also the keg and shield belt, if you play in a clan war you can just talk to your teammates and ask them not to take the keg and shield belt. This also works in public servers, but then you must be there before the extra health respawns or a noob will just take it and then get killed.

1.3 Get the weapons you might be forced to use during your flag run (you must have a longbow, the rest is your personal thing, I personally try to always have link, flak, sniper, rocket and shock rifle with me). You can usually pick most of them up on your way to the flag and while you get jump boots and extra health. If you want (I personally don’t do it very often) you can try to get the redeemer before you go in, if you know how to use it right it could provide you a safe escape. But it might go wrong and then you are dead, all for nothing.

1.4 Tell your teammates before you go in for a flag run, they can give you good cover that is often needed in the midfield.

 
2. Check the situation:

2.1 Check the teams, are there many snipers in this match ? Any players who you know really good and what they will do/where they will stand ?

2.2 Check the base for any camping vehicles.

2.3 Check for camping players on foot.

BTW Don’t think that you need to check every single place in their base, I don’t even really stop to look I just look around while I’m going in, it’s not like you have to scout.

 
3. Plan your flag run:

3.1 After you checked the situation you can decide where you will go. Look for the best way to avoid campers and snipers or where it’s the easiest to kill them. You will get a feeling for this really soon.

3.2 Check if you can get pass the camping vehicles in their base, if for example a tank is camping on the flag then you should tell your teammates and they can help you take down the tank before you try to take the flag and then get immediately killed. If the camping vehicle is not directly on the flag then you might give it a try, but see that you get out of it’s range of fire/sight ASAP.

3.3 A person camping directly on the flag should not be a great problem, they are usually easily taken down, try doing it before you take the flag so he doesn’t see you before you can kill him.

 
4. The actual flag run:

These are just basic tips for flag runs, no instructions on where you should go.

4.1 Don’t go straight forward hoping nobody’s behind you, when you go around a corner and nobody’s on front of you shot a flag ball or better grenades with your rocket launcher back to the corner.

4.2 Do not stay on your hover board longer that 1 second unless someone of your team is with you and can assure you that you won’t be shot off your board. Cause if you do get shot, you are as good as dead. Use your hover board only to do quick dodges (you go on your board only for a really short time, then jump up with your board and then immediately go off your board while you’re still in midair, it makes you really fast. Especially when you do a wall jump after jumping off). If you are being flak spammed, do not go on your board at all unless you have a lot of practice with timing it (meaning if you’re good, you can listen to their shots and you will know when you can go on your board for a second without being shot off it)

4.3 As said, either be really quick OR be really slow by just hiding. They might think “Oh he must be already out of our base, I don’t see him anywhere. Let’s search the midfield!”. This does not work very often though, I wouldn’t count on it, so just try to be as quick as possible.

4.4 Again, encourage your team to provide you good cover ! Always tell them where you will go next, where you need them to be.

4.5 ALWAYS be moving, don’t stop for longer than 1 second, you will get sniped.

4.6 While moving, don’t just go straight forward, keep on jumping, doing side jumps all the time.

4.7 When there is a part on the map where you just have to go straight forward for a long time and where you are exposed to snipers (like on the bridge on Suspense) do a side jump (or if possible a wall jump) and then use a pair of jump boots. NOTE: doing side jumps and then using jump boots gets you further (and wall jumps even further) than just jumping normal and using jump boots. This is for not being shot so easily by snipers or other players.

4.8 Be aware before scoring the flag, check for someone waiting for you on the flag, check for incoming vehicles. There’s nothing more frustrating than doing an epic flag run and then you get killed just before scoring it (last second save).

 
 
That’s about it, for the basic routes where you can go on every map, just figure them out yourself or watch other players. I will not explain every single flag run on every map. But I will give some special tips for some vctf maps:
 
Suspense: Take the enemy jump boots. Go in soon after you take them, then when you have the flag they will respawn right when you are at their jump boots again and BAM you have three new jump boots without having to wait for them.

Necropolis:Do not stay on the bridge. Jump off , and when you’re under the bridge try switching sides, then stay on one side and then switch again, it will confuse the enemy. If your team has the darkwalker, try being mostly on the darkwalker side cause he can give great cover.

Sandstorm:Learn the hammer jumps. And don’t think you’re safe when you are in the redeemer tunnel, keep on sidejumping and most important take your longbow out , the redeemer is usually where vehicles will come after you. So turn around and look for any vehicles, then shoot them down.

Kargo:This map is OPTIMAL for doing the hoverboard dodges, because there are so many walls. It’s so much fun when you can do the jumps, you can be effing fast here. You can go different routes, it doesn’t matter because you can do the dodges everywhere in this map. Just help your team to get the tank and once you are in the midfield you should easily be able to score it. Try staying out of the area under the boat, because if you get killed there, the flag will be returned immediately.

I hope this helps some players who are trying to become a good flag runner. Please, feel free to post more advices. :)

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I'm flag running with the instinct and i go where camper isn't here !!
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Originally posted by DEVIL_-Dr4g0v-

I'm flag running with the instinct and i go where camper isn't here !!
I know what you mean because I too flag run by instinct, but in your head you still do all these points, you just don't have to think about it anymore.
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pssshhhh this is for chumps.

 
Khantusion taught me how to flag run:
 
1. Grab the flag
 
b. get on hover board
 
III. remember the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.
 
only use your instincts when it comes to the use of profanity.
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Very nice BucKet... well said!.
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coolworx taught me the same flag run fluffy, flawless!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dr4g0v Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2010 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington

pssshhhh this is for chumps.


 

Khantusion taught me how to flag run:

 

1. Grab the flag

 

b. get on hover board

 

III. remember the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.

 

only use your instincts when it comes to the use of profanity.

LMAO This is always some nice flag runn !!
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n don't get fancy with your flag run kills or you will get owned while your are in mid air...




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nice tips there.. couldnt of put it better myself... and i was gonna mention khantusion.. :(
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Originally posted by DEVIL_-Dr4g0v-

Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington

pssshhhh this is for chumps.


 

Khantusion taught me how to flag run:

 

1. Grab the flag

 

b. get on hover board

 

III. remember the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.

 

only use your instincts when it comes to the use of profanity.

LMAO This is always some nice flag runn !!
Yeah I've always wondered what his secret is, same for coolworx..now I finally know :P
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on Suspense, i get a scorpion,and when im are on the bridge, self destruct so i can get jumpboots,then i jump in to the house,get there flag jumping in to the house, jumping to the jumpboots and jump down to the bridge!
then i just use hoverboard(if it is an enemy there, hide behind a tank or something)
then use the jump thing to the tower,get jump boots and jump to the house,and now you have scored!Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by PROToTyPE

on Suspense, i get a scorpion,and when im are on the bridge, self destruct so i can get jumpboots,then i jump in to the house,get there flag jumping in to the house, jumping to the jumpboots and jump down to the bridge!
then i just use hoverboard(if it is an enemy there, hide behind a tank or something)
then use the jump thing to the tower,get jump boots and jump to the house,and now you have scored!Thumbs Up
It may work against the noobs in public servers, against a beast team it's different.
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ok,i never played a clan match :( just got 3 memberCry
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@dagon....idk man its worked on clans regularly, even when the runner is laggin ;)

@proto...its not specific routes that dictate a good flag run, its how u adapt ur route along the way as the battlefield evolves around u. ultimately, how effective a flag run is, is how well u can adapt to changes as they occur & deal with any obstacles. as u gain more experience, u get a feel of wat to expect if u do a certain thing...so u can b ready.
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@dagon....idk man its worked on clans regularly, even when the runner is laggin ;)@proto...its not specific routes that dictate a good flag run, its how u adapt ur route along the way as the battlefield evolves around u. ultimately, how effective a flag run is, is how well u can adapt to changes as they occur & deal with any obstacles. as u gain more experience, u get a feel of wat to expect if u do a certain thing...so u can b ready.

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ok,i never played a clan match :( just got 3 memberCry
Hit me up when you got 4. :) We'll play you all modes, a friendly match.
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thanks DaGoN!cool my first clan match,
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What modes do you play ?
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TDM(instagib)WAR and VCTF
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Patience - Runs dont always have to be fast, take time to look.... or juke an enemy but looping around again. Unless theres 30 seconds left... then just spam flak behind you and haul ass lol.

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lol talk bout patience seph....iv held da flag for 10mins a few times in necro b4 i could score o.O
had time to piss & checkout TV while i waited lol
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yeah been there lol, i've set down the controller on necro once and seriously made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, only to sit back down and wait some more.... at least i got a snack.
 
So what happened today tho, you couldn't hold the flag for longer then a minute and someone would murder you, nooby

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Originally posted by Sephiroth_v7

Patience - Runs dont always have to be fast, take time to look.... or juke an enemy but looping around again. Unless theres 30 seconds left... then just spam flak behind you and haul ass lol.


Youre giving flag running advice?

What's next the fatality school for advanced spelling?
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Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington

Originally posted by Sephiroth_v7

Patience - Runs dont always have to be fast, take time to look.... or juke an enemy but looping around again. Unless theres 30 seconds left... then just spam flak behind you and haul ass lol.


Youre giving flag running advice?

What's next the fatality school for advanced spelling?


lmao hell naw.. funny as hell.. Seph is real good with the flag when he's not holding a team mates balls :)
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