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SIZZLE
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Topic: Religion and Politics Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:52pm |
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i agree Val!
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valjohn
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:47pm | ||
Each one of us is free to believe in everything we think is best for us.
Trying to convince a believer that God doesn't exists is just as hard as convincing a non-believer that He exists
So, no need to argue on this subject
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SIZZLE
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:45pm | ||
why give examples of situations around the world? its meaningless where *weather or not to believe* is concerned!
i'll have my friend VIDEOGAMEPRINCE post, it will give him a good forum to express his views on Christianaty |
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SP61gTSupra
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:40pm | ||
So what happens when your wife dies then you remarry, then you both die? Do you have 2 wives in heaven? Isn't that polygamy? What's that smell? Am I asking to many questions?
And there are too many unanswered questions, so why put your faith in any of it? |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:38pm | ||
hold on everbody!!! this will be a bumpy ride!!! We're moving this to FOF..... it should be in the IOTD thread because you are all idiots for responding in this thread, you guys sure love "beating a dead horse"
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SIZZLE
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:37pm | ||
Its your own choice weather or not to believe, but how much time do you have to make that choice? if youve already made the choice not to believe? then live with it, and see what happens in the end?
like ive said before, asking someone to believe isn't asking a lot! and i can see no negative in believing! then whats the harm in being a believer? |
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Heavenly_tRiNiTy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:30pm | ||
yea I agree religion that some ppl promote often fk things up but if u take religion away then we would still fight. Its human nature, ur view is a little too skewed imo - we compete even to the death, God or no God! Simply put many ppl are willing to die for their beliefs. The Afghans are a complex ppl, its just as much political as it is religious. They don't want to be ruled by democracy AND they don't want to be ruled by communism.
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F.u.k-shaker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:25pm | ||
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i think some people may worry that once they reach GOD they haft to live a certain way? there are radical religious people who believe that! but i don't! if that were the case then freedom of chioce wouldn't really exist in religion because we'd haft to follow everything to the letter. and were only human so im pretty sure thats not the case.
Is there more to you then what you can see in the mirror? do you have a spirit? is your body the temple for your spirit? after you die will your spirit live on? is your spirit eternal? YES to all the above is my answer! whats yours? In short! Do you mean jesus, holy ghost, god as in one... Is this "god" for you zizle?
If yes, that means you read the bible texts.
Im not saying ur wrong, but the bible consists of hundreds if not thousands of copied scrifts that already exist in other beliefs system.. They are also older then Christianity.
So regardless in where one seek "god", one will find him!?
This is for me really confusing and almost a fata morgana. How do you know who/witch "god" one will find?
On the "spirit" issue, i absolutely agree with you, something is beyond our lives in flesh..
Oxy Moron.
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Heavenly_tRiNiTy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:23pm | ||
Whilst it makes a compelling argument it ain't law or even pure logic! If u agree that everything we observe has a beginning (point of creation) then there is no simplest solution here, I could say then what created the big bang? I agree its an endless cycle...u might as well ask what was there before infinity cos I cant answer that either..and there's no Occam's Razor to that either is there?
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SP61gTSupra
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:08pm | ||
Hell, I'd believe in greek gods before any modern religion!
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:29pm | ||
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:03pm | ||
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 12:58pm | ||
Hmmn! not unless u submit to the possibility that life isn't random but purposeful then u subtract zeros by 10000000000000 etc
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 12:54pm | ||
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 12:50pm | ||
The chances of life springing up on Earth is like 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 :1 odds. What would be the chances of a supreme being springing up? Well, I'd run outa zero's...
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SIZZLE
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 11:52am | ||
intelligent people will try to reach GOD imo! the reason being is, because it makes no since not to! it isn't like GOD forces you to live your life mistake free. forgivness is 1 of GODS blessings. and i think it takes being a parent to realise just how important forgivness is.
i think some people may worry that once they reach GOD they haft to live a certain way? there are radical religious people who believe that! but i don't! if that were the case then freedom of chioce wouldn't really exist in religion because we'd haft to follow everything to the letter. and were only human so im pretty sure thats not the case. Is there more to you then what you can see in the mirror? do you have a spirit? is your body the temple for your spirit? after you die will your spirit live on? is your spirit eternal? YES to all the above is my answer! whats yours? |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 10:24am | ||
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Iuckshot
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 5:01am | ||
On a more serious note I guess I'm kinda open minded, and I've read a little bit n asked some christians (friends) about it , but usually just to talk about it I guess lol reading one of the pages in Phantaci's sig only gave me more questions about the nature of God than I had a while back
To appeal and possibly look more convincing D: ofcourse, as a believer, the 'signs' may be more 'obvious' to you I guess, making it seem as if intelligent people should be able to figure them out something like that I think anyway
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 4:18am | ||
yo shouldn't of this been in fist of fury
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TX2k7
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 3:41am | ||
Syz...
so let me get this straight....you praise ur god for being all loving, now heres where ur problem lies: (yes iv asked this before but i feel it needs to be restated) would a truly all loving god so easily damn a moral and just person who finds their own beliefs? by ur statements u would make it seem that either ur god is truly not as loving as u would believe it to be, favoring only those who worship it (isn't that a form of vanity?) or ur speaking falsely about ur god in order to - some would say- scare others into believing. now yes i am aware that as a christian you are compelled to share ur beliefs, but i do not believe that is what u are doing here with ur "believe or be damned" talk. Its hypocrytical to say u believe in an all loving god and talk like that. i do agree with ur statement "its up to the person whether on not to believe" and so maybe ill end it with that, on a good note :) i do not mean to offend you or your beliefs with my post Sizzle |
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valjohn
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 3:20am | ||
Well well well ... the debate is opened !
Who created the universe?
Is the Bible (which was writen by men) relating real facts? Was is all invented? Was it modified by the church?
People who pray are they stupid or visionary?
etc ... etc ...
So many controversial questions with so many possible answers. So where is the truth ?
Personnally I think that the truth is in every each one of us and it reveals itself to us sooner or later.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:28am | ||
If he's an intelligent person, then no, he hasn't tried talking to God. Sorry, that's the conclusions I draw from it!
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SIZZLE
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:26am | ||
Hitler? now that would be a lot to forgive! i don't know about that one?
you seem to have something to add Death? you can share your oppinion here if you like. it doesn't need to be a negative or hateful discussion. |
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F.u.k-shaker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:20am | ||
Why do you refer to him as a "intelligent person" when you ask this qestion?
- Droken your an intelligent person, have you tried speaking to GOD? if you don't mind me asking?
Intelligent has nothing too do with GOD what so ever!
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ax412
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:07am | ||
but i think if someone ministered to hitler before he died that hitler could have went to heaven.
the only unpardonable sin is blaspheming the Holy SPirit, so basically the gift of God is free to whoever wants it.
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