SCIENCE

One of the greatest physicists there has ever been!

“I think i can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics”


Richard Frenman

There are Seven Arguments to the way our Verse came to be;

1. The absurd universe

   Our universe just happens to be the way it is.

2. The unique universe

   There is a deep underlying unity in physics which necessitates the universe being the way it is. Some theory of everything will explain why the various features of the Universe must have exactly the values that we see.

3. The multiverse

   Multiple Universes exist, having all possible combinations of characteristics, and we inevitably find ourselves within a Universe that allows us to exist.

4. Creationism

   A creator designed the Universe with the purpose of supporting complexity and the emergence of Intelligence.

5. The life principle

   There is an underlying principle that constrains the universe to evolve towards life and mind.

6. The self-explaining universe

   A closed explanatory or causal loop: "perhaps only universes with a capacity for consciousness can exist." This is wheeler's Participatory Anthropic Principle (PAP).

7. The fake universe

   We live inside a virtual reality simulation.

DISCUSS =]
We can almost rule out 1 & 7

Originally posted by TuNA FISh multiverse is the correct one...

is that with super string theory?

Originally posted by -DaGoN- How can you rule out 7 ?

Cogito ergo mundus talis est

just copy it over n google it

I Think Therfore I am. This states some very complicated philosophical ideas that, in short, disproves 7. Look up, "i think therfore i am" and then loook up the Anthropic principle, WIKI has a very good section on it. You need to look into it in detail though... 

Originally posted by Blackfang Originally posted by TuNA FISh multiverse is the correct one... is that with super string theory?

Yes but this has many flaws, for example, if the Verses are along each string then string theory suggest's that the strings should smash together and probabilty suggest that our verse should be going bang every like 5 mins, <--- I think so anyway, but i know there are big flaws in the multiverse theory.

"God does not play dice."

I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time.

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Aquaknot I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time. I guess when the purpose of the thread doesn't match the title, this is what you get. wow? trashing both threads ay? Han Fei does know his sh1t about certain science, but im telling you the that were more fascinating then anything out there in space! study's on the human brain are much more helpful and interesting to me then dark energy or blackholes. a good example would be your view of this thread. lol learning the secrets of the universe on a gaming site over a cup of coffee would be nice Aqua, but i think your just asking a little too much of us gamers my man _-)

WRONG, physics & Philosophy together discuss THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS in the universe, If we understand every level of partical physics, strings for example, we wouldn't need to know about the brain when we know why everything forms ( IE ) atoms form the way they do.
String theory suggest that the vibration of the string changes what the Quark will do and therfore the atom, knowing this we could create our own atoms and mass manufacture cells and body patrs IE the brain, this is of course when we get instruments powerfull anough to interact or even see the strings. And we don't actualy have proof that the strings / membranes even exsist, we only think they do due to the equation behind it.

“Todays scientists have substituted mathmatics for experiments, and they wander off equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation with reality.”

Nikola Telsa

reality is an individuals belief in what is real. we each have to determine what is real and what isn't, try'n to prove something is real to yourself requires total honesty, 0 bias and 100% rational thought, try'n to prove something is real to someone else requires the same, but is pointless unless they have simular knowledge and understanding of the subject.

there's nothing wrong with theory's as long as there treated as just that “theory's”, but when theory's are taken as fact without proper proof, bias is always the case. honesty, rationality and reality are always missing in those situations. but some people do take theory as fact until its disproven. and those people or situations are the ones i laugh at.

Science isn't a bad thing but it can be a very dangeruos thing! thermal nukes and deadly agents are the best example of that.





      

Originally posted by ASHYTEBUBLExD Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Aquaknot I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time. I guess when the purpose of the thread doesn't match the title, this is what you get. wow? trashing both threads ay? Han Fei does know his sh1t about certain science, but im telling you the that were more fascinating then anything out there in space!study's on the human brain are much more helpful and interesting to me then dark energy or blackholes.a good example would be your view of this thread. lollearning the secrets of the universe on a gaming site over a cup of coffee would be nice Aqua, but i think your just asking a little too much of us gamers my man _-) WRONG, physics & Philosophy together discuss THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS in the universe, If we understand every level of partical physics, strings for example, we wouldn't need to know about the brain when we know why everything forms ( IE ) atoms form the way they do.String theory suggest that the vibration of the string changes what the Quark will do and therfore the atom, knowing this we could create our own atoms and mass manufacture cells and body patrs IE the brain, this is of course when we get instruments powerfull anough to interact or even see the strings. And we don't actualy have proof that the strings / membranes even exsist, we only think they do due to the equation behind it.

WRONG? lmfao!

#1 “IF” can never be used to prove anything!
#2 string theory is just a theory therefore its mute until proven!
#3 philosofhy has nothing to do with the natural workings of the brain!
#4 is a black whole or dark energy aware of its own existance? is it possible for a black whole or dark matter to figure out what i am?
#5 you acually just helped me prove my point lol

THERE'S NOTHING KNOWN IN EXISTANCE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THE HUMAN BRAIN! EXCEPT GOD