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    Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 8:15am
I didnt read all this, but I do think it was an unfair advantage when I had a kb/m on my ps3.  I could easily track some one and lead them with tracking instead of flip the stick in one direction and let them 'run' into it.  Maybe that was just me, but I thought it made it much easier.  
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i never used the keyboard but in my honest opinion when I used mouse and controller vs just only controller I noticed a few things.
 
The controller I was always consistent in what I could do.
I could snipe better with the controller. (remember I live in Cali with an average of 100 ping, on lan or instant action the mouse was **** though)
Basically the controller is easier to stay calm with, the mouse you get nervous and you will miss by a long shot.
Sure they're are shots you can do with a mouse that are impossible with a controller.
But UT3 isn't about only aim lol. Its about what you do with what you got. (if the guy uses mouse don't fight him in the open when he has a stinger LOL common sense)
Its only an advantage, (to me) if you make up an excuse for yourself.
As long as I have been playing, the only real advantage is ping. Which unfortunately 75% of you have a better ping then me when we meet on the battlefield.
 
It doesnt matter if you use a sixaxis, a ds3, kbm, m/c, or the fragfx. It doesnt make you an automatic beast. Its about the mindset lol.
 
Ping is the only real advantage on this game otherwise its just excuses.
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Sorry Bum, I've played against you quiet a few times in Warfare.. you don't amaze me as much as Hint amazes me.
I dont amaze anyone..lmao..Just saying I was murderin hint in those games everytime I encountered him..not saying he's a bad player or anything tho.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by BuMrUsH

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Sorry Bum, I've played against you quiet a few times in Warfare.. you don't amaze me as much as Hint amazes me.



I dont amaze anyone..lmao..Just saying I was murderin hint in those games everytime I encountered him..not saying he's a bad player or anything tho.


Oh whatever Bum, you do too! lol
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Cheating? That's too strong a phrase but it does create an imbalance. A mouse has more precision than a controller (as Pinnacle i think suggested) so its easier to score hits.

  • Also you are using your dominant hand for primary and secondary fire, as against both hands, so the brain will process this quicker.
  • KB keys have a better response time than joysticks e.g. change weapons (although this may not necessarily be discernable for KB consoles due to USB input device drivers for PS3).
  • UT3 was designed for KB/M and adapted for consoles, there could be advantages in the game engine like dodge jumps - IDK but its food for thought!

I agree with Phantaci lag is more detrimental than KB/M although if given a choice I would prefer a level playing field, wouldn't we all! No more Suspense where 5 guys are sniping from the far end of the bridge or Necropolis - same. It tells you who's playing with what when in VCTF no one votes for Containment. WF its Downtown for snipe practice. TDM its well yeah Deck, Defiance, Sentinel, Arsenal etc. TBH its only an advantage if you can master it. In fact there are lots of perceivable advantages for getting the brain to respond quickly/accurately so i'll winge about those left-handed bast4rds, those b1tches who have 20:20 vision, any who who plays the drums or keyboards, anybody who plays sport competitively, any tw4t who is bi-lingual or any freak with an unerring twitch-time. U cheating fkers - u should be banned from online gaming for life imo!

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Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy

Cheating? That's too strong a phrase but it does create an imbalance. A mouse has more precision than a controller (as Pinnacle i think suggested) so its easier to score hits.

  • Also you are using your dominant hand for primary and secondary fire, as against both hands, so the brain will process this quicker.
  • KB keys have a better response time than joysticks e.g. change weapons (although this may not necessarily be discernable for KB consoles due to USB input device drivers for PS3).
  • UT3 was designed for KB/M and adapted for consoles, there could be advantages in the game engine like dodge jumps - IDK but its food for thought!

I agree with Phantaci lag is more detrimental than KB/M although if given a choice I would prefer a level playing field, wouldn't we all! No more Suspense where 5 guys are sniping from the far end of the bridge or Necropolis - same. It tells you who's playing with what when in VCTF no one votes for Containment. WF its Downtown for snipe practice. TDM its well yeah Deck, Defiance, Sentinel, Arsenal etc. TBH its only an advantage if you can master it. In fact there are lots of perceivable advantages for getting the brain to respond quickly/accurately so i'll winge about those left-handed bast4rds, those b1tches who have 20:20 vision, any who who plays the drums or keyboards, anybody who plays sport competitively, any tw4t who is bi-lingual or any freak with an unerring twitch-time. U cheating fkers - u should be banned from online gaming for life imo!

Play the game and have fun...and if it ain't then simply...don't play!
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I agree, it's not cheating, it does give an advantage but I don't really care, and it's part of the game after all.
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I cant honk my horn on ut3, mouse /Kboard can!
And I play ut3 pc version with mouse n Kboard. Its easier to hitscan and snipe.
Im total shait with it so i stick to my paddy controller tho.
Im not saying its cheating... But it is a difference.
And therefore certain player use it to get an advantage!
In the future i think it will even out, when new controllers can be adjusted properly..
If its analog its analog..
 
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crouching + honking = wtfh4x
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Originally posted by Iuckshot

crouching + honking = wtfh4x


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o.O. IF ut4 comes out lollol.
 
Wow i cant wait to pwn you'r ass in UT4 lol.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SilverJ-17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 2011 at 1:26am
I just so happen to had a wireless mouse laying around.  It was kind of broken though, but it still works.  Man, that dragging thing really is kind of annoying, especially with a kind of messed up wireless mouse.  It didn't take long for me to realize why we didn't use that one anymore.  Either way, I experienced the issues with the mouse first-hand.  Even if it's a working mouse (wired's probably better), I doubt I'll ever play KB/M or C/M.  Controllers work just fine for me.
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Originally posted by DEVIL_-ReVeNgE-

o.O. IF ut4 comes out lollol.
 
Wow i cant wait to pwn you'r ass in UT4 lol.

LOL me or you would own him anyday xD
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movement and dodging is about as important as anything else.. some people move great so there harder to hit.. it is harder to dodge someone thats good with kb/m then someone using a controller imo.. id bet cash that TX and ChrisC use kb/m.. its not cheating but its an advantage.. some kb/m mouse users try to act c***y when they snipe.. thats what i don't get? kb/m has advantages 4 sure but controller can hang with kb/m in most situations.. i agree with Phantasi that connection is the #1 factor.. say Phantasi hosted ctf or tdm and there were some great kb/m users on the other team, Phantasi would still dominate because of the perfect connection.. being on host or playing against someone on host shows how big of a difference that a connection can make
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i agree with most of that syz..apart from TX and chris using kb/m... lol they dont.. well i knwo for sure tx dont lol.. and i doubt chrisC does..... also conmnnection isnt everything... it plays a large part in who does beter but even people with alot of lag can still beat peoplle who has hardly any lol
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yeah but we'd win easier if we didnt lag :P
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TX is cheating somehow when he does that manta glitch!!!!
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xD its not a glitch (so he says).. anyone can do it.. just gotta know what to do :P really simple once u know xD and i could do it b4 him anyway lol.. and headhunter/quick/dragov werte the first people i can remember who done it
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RONG!! me and HH showed the ps3.UT3 community!
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and if am right "i" was the 1st to find out you could do it with the pad :)
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What is a "rong"? Some kind of erplein?
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i agree with most of that syz..apart from TX and chris using kb/m... lol they dont.. well i knwo for sure tx dont lol.. and i doubt chrisC does..... also conmnnection isnt everything... it plays a large part in who does beter but even people with alot of lag can still beat peoplle who has hardly any lol


i bet they do use kb/m atleast part of the time :) sometimes lag can acually help you survive.. ive been hit with sh1t and didn't take any damage when i was lag'n real bad.. bad lag kills your hitscan 4 sure.. i hear some eu players complaining as soon as they join a US server because of lag so connection makes a big difference.. clan wars ctf is sh1tty 4 me 4 some reason? i ping 100 but it plays more like 200
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