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    Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 8:20pm
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The seeding must have been based on personal preference+popularity as Ether said tho.

Because there's nothing else the seeders could have based it on. Fact.
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So if I'm reading this correctly, one is not able to look at these ten teams and pick who has the best shot of winning it all?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ether404 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by ax412

Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7

Am I dumb for thinking its bull**** that the first two seeds get a bye? Its random seeding not based off a win/loss ratio so what makes them better than everyone Elses random teams?

Well the seeds weren't random. The players ranked them on who they thought were the best. Who else is gonna get a bye??????????
It's a ten man tournament, someone has to get a BYE.

Woolvie basically said I think team A can win it all, so team will get this seed.

That's how it worked.

You're missing the point.  I understand that the concept is purely based on who is top dog, and that those decisions are always decided by top tier players.  But if you want a "fair/even" tournament, seeding shouldn't be involved.  

I personally believe there should be a random draw as to who is Number 1, Number 2, etc etc. Personal opinions and private vendettas skew the entire bracket to such an extent that player decisions can't be used to judge the best of the best.  THAT is my point.  This isn't a professional sport or the NCAA.  It's a friendly WF tournament.  Don't take it too far.  Throw the teams into a hat and draw.  Bracket done.  
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Perhaps the people who seeded the teams could clarify exactly what they based their rankings on so we can see if their reasoning was valid or not?

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I could do a live stream and draw seeds from a hat so that everyone would see the legitimacy.... It would take one minute..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ubernoob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 9:09pm
Originally posted by Ether404

Throw the teams into a hat and draw.  Bracket done.  


This would be more fair than the current seeding system, imo.

Also, if the maps are to be predetermined they should probably be decided on for each round prior to the teams being placed in the brackets
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Originally posted by ax412


Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7

Am I dumb for thinking its bull**** that the first two seeds get a bye? Its random seeding not based off a win/loss ratio so what makes them better than everyone Elses random teams?

Well the seeds weren't random. The players ranked them on who they thought were the best. Who else is gonna get a bye??????????
It's a ten man tournament, someone has to get a BYE.

Woolvie basically said I think team A can win it all, so team will get this seed.

That's how it worked.

I was just trolling you to see what you'd say I don't care lol

Waste management is going down anyway when I get hold of them ;) where's all the sh1t talk at???????

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Who cares about seeding anyways? You still have to win every game to win the championship, doesn't matter who you play or when u play them. Its more of a guide line on how to make the bracket really. I think its fair, game on.... P bodies bring it the f*** on! :)

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Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7

Who cares about seeding anyways? You still have to win every game to win the championship, doesn't matter who you play or when u play them. Its more of a guide line on how to make the bracket really. I think its fair, game on.... P bodies bring it the f*** on! :)


Well, the seeding does determine how easy it will be to "win every game to win the championship" :)

If the matchups were decided by randomization I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's just that the current seeding process is so flawed and the teams are being ranked on such arbitrary reasoning that make it seem unfair.
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Originally posted by ubernoob


Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7

Who cares about seeding anyways? You still have to win every game to win the championship, doesn't matter who you play or when u play them. Its more of a guide line on how to make the bracket really. I think its fair, game on.... P bodies bring it the f*** on! :)


Well, the seeding does determine how easy it will be to "win every game to win the championship" :)

If the matchups were decided by randomization I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's just that the current seeding process is so flawed and the teams are being ranked on such arbitrary reasoning that make it seem unfair.

Who cares how easy it is, two best teams will play in the end if you're doing double elimination

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Hey I want in. Dont care what team.

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Originally posted by ubernoob

Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7

Who cares about seeding anyways? You still have to win every game to win the championship, doesn't matter who you play or when u play them. Its more of a guide line on how to make the bracket really. I think its fair, game on.... P bodies bring it the f*** on! :)


Well, the seeding does determine how easy it will be to "win every game to win the championship" :)

If the matchups were decided by randomization I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's just that the current seeding process is so flawed and the teams are being ranked on such arbitrary reasoning that make it seem unfair.
 
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Also why cant we have scrambled teams those look very stacked.
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Also why cant we have scrambled teams those look very stacked.
 
Only if you play on your ashytebuble account and taunt the whole game.
 
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Which team looks stacked? The teams are fairly well rounded IMO. GOW, GRX/***, Seph's team and Devil have really good warfare lineups. But I don't see any team stacked.
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As far as rankings go, put Waste Managment and Devil last. It doesn't matter. If a team is ranked last or first, they still have to play the winner of the next round. Just ask the LA Kings. . . and it's double elimination, so the teams have a chance to redeem themselves. So what difference does ranking make?
 
Can we all just play and have fun. Who cares who wins or loses. It's a fvcking game. This is just good competition and fun. Except Strider - He'll blow his brains out if he loses.
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Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7

Originally posted by ax412


Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7

Am I dumb for thinking its bull**** that the first two seeds get a bye? Its random seeding not based off a win/loss ratio so what makes them better than everyone Elses random teams?

Well the seeds weren't random. The players ranked them on who they thought were the best. Who else is gonna get a bye??????????
It's a ten man tournament, someone has to get a BYE.

Woolvie basically said I think team A can win it all, so team will get this seed.

That's how it worked.

I was just trolling you to see what you'd say I don't care lol

Waste management is going down anyway when I get hold of them ;) where's all the sh1t talk at???????
 
Lick my balls Seph. Is that sh1t talking or a proposition?
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Pinnacle - I love the LA Kings reference. Pretty much sums up this tourney if it goes the full route.


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Hey seph, your sluts were playing some legit good warfare on Phants server  tonight vs some members of the Pbodies. You need to tell your baby momma to back da faq up so you can spend some time with your sluts! 
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Hey seph, your sluts were playing some legit good warfare on Phants server  tonight vs some members of the Pbodies. You need to tell your baby momma to back da faq up so you can spend some time with your sluts! 
 
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If this was single Elim, I could honestly see a justification of the complaints.
But if you lose first round, your still guaranteed another round. 
If this were 8 or 16 teams then maybe do random seeding. But you can't do that when a team has to get a BYE. 
Just get ready for your match ups.
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