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    Posted: 22 Mar 2012 at 9:20pm
This film makes so much sense is crazy, watch it all the way through and if you pay attenetion there are some real hidden truth's about Christianity in the film that I agree with 100%.

Anyone that has seen the film may understand what I'm saying but of not and you have a spare couple of hour's go and watch it and then you will see.

Christianity is a sham (sorry to say it but Its just my opinion)

No offence to anyone or anything but this film speaks volumes to me.
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movie was awful imo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnAYGqjcGEE&feature=youtu.be
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Post Options Post Options   Quote YINYANG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 12:25am
It was not that bad rican, id say a solid 6.5/10 or a popcorn flick. But im pretty sure after calling a religion a sham this thread will get locked lol.


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we'll see.. I'll leave it up... for now
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No I agree with rican the film it self is average but the back bone of the story is genious.

I will put it as simple as I can, coz I would be typing for the next 3 hours if I went into detail.

It's saying that people got Christianity wrong, we don't need church's or priest's to worship God because he is everywhere. Most of the film is fiction but at the end of the film there is some fact that is told to you at the end and it basically ses that a Scroll was found somewhere in a cave in Iran which was believed by historians and Scientists to be the one and only Gospel written in Jesus's own hand and when it was presented to the Pope he dismissed it and said it was heresy.

These were apparently some of the words on the scroll

"Jesus said... the Kingdom of God is inside you, and all around you, not in mansions of wood and stone. Split a piece of wood... and I am there, lift a stone... and you will find me".

So my point is that the pope dismissed this becuase if this were to get out in public then Christians all over the world would not need the pope or churchs and it would take away all the power of the Catholic church.

So the reason I said Christianity is a sham is because there is a probability that it actually is.

Hope this clears things up abit.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TuNA FISh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 9:43am
Originally posted by puertoRICAN

movie was awful imo


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Post Options Post Options   Quote ColossusSlayer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by TuNA FISh

Originally posted by puertoRICAN

movie was awful imo


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Im not really talking about the film, I'm talking about some of the facts it presents to you right at the end of the film. read my above post and you will understand.
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CS I can't believe your moment of enlightenment came from a 3rd rate film that actually adds nothing new to the 'truth' about christianity. You claim that Jesus's words declare 'God is all around you' then you denounce christianity as a sham because man demands we build houses of worship.

  • God is omnipotent is he not? When did christianity say otherwise?
  • The building of houses of worship was in the Old testament - the book that preceeded the New Testament which is the book for christians.
  • Most christians are aware of the early history of christianity and the catholic church. We know there were many gospels written but only a selection accepted and canonical
  • "So the reason I said Christianity is a sham is because there is a probability that it actually is."
    This sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Did it come from the Stigmata's film script? I challenge anyone here to make sense of this. You can't make a statement then say there is a chance that its an accurate depiction of the truth. You either believe it is or not. You can't prove either way so it's a biased opinion at best.
  • Ideas about God and worship -This was said in one of many debates on science vs religion, religion vs atheism etc so you could have saved yourself some time.

There are better arguments to raise if you want to prove christianity probably actually is a sham (in your opinion).

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ok I should have put Christianity (Could) Be a sham. lol

I understand where your coming from but forget the film, most of it is just made up garbage its just the little piece of txt at the end of the film I'm talking about which is truth. A piece of Holy scripture was found in Iran and it was believed to be the one and only Gospel in Jesus's own words which is a big deal becuase most of the gospels are not really by god they are just from loads of random people so really people are not actually reading the word of god they are just reading made up stuff which anyone must agree could all be one giant story of nothing.

I have a healthy respect for Christians and have nothing agaiinst them but I believe that most of it isnt true or correct and there is actually more to God and I also believe there an unhealthy amount of corruption in the church.

This peice of holy scripture was presented to the pope and he just dismisssed it and named it herasy which ses to me that he was threatened by it because the pope and the catholic church have power and they don;t want to let go of it becuase they are greedy. This holy scripture could of actually been the one and only Gospel of Jesus Christ but now its most likely in a vault somewhere to be forgotton about forever becuase the church is happy with the way things are right now even though its all most likely wrong and not what God wanted.

This subject is not to affend anyone or to cause an argument but simply and interesting subject.

if you are confused go and see if you can find some information about this on the internet becuase I found plenty of info about it.

I guess its just one of those things we will never know the truth about.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Heavenly_tRiNiTy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 6:36am
K I see and I agree with most of what you're saying probably because it fits comfortably with my own thoughts about God and religion. Ive said before that im not a conventional christian. You shouldn't be surprised to discover that the catholic church suppressed text that didn't fit nicely into their model of religion. It would be great if they gave access to those documents but I doubt if they ever do so willingly so it populates the theory that they're hiding something of great importance.
We love conspiracy theories, the bigger the revelation the more appealing the theory - Hitler's diaries, Diana's assassination, MJ's death, the holy blood and the holy grail (the book that Dan Brown's based his own poxy book on - I really recommend you read this). The one reason I believ they suppress material even now is that if the world knows what they know it would damage their reputation. Maybe people would reject Catholicism, maybe Christianity, maybe religion once the truths got out - it's just my thoughts. So the only gospel written at the time of Jesus, if true, may cause a shift in minds of worshippers. Why would the church risk losing power? Hence censorship is for the good of the establishment NOT necessarily for the good of the individual.
Aspects of christianity can be tagged as vague, contradictory or impossible but it doesn't IMO make it a sham - more controversial yes! More interesting for me, most definitely!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ColossusSlayer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 7:32am
Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy

K I see and I agree with most of what you're saying probably because it fits comfortably with my own thoughts about God and religion. Ive said before that im not a conventional christian. You shouldn't be surprised to discover that the catholic church suppressed text that didn't fit nicely into their model of religion. It would be great if they gave access to those documents but I doubt if they ever do so willingly so it populates the theory that they're hiding something of great importance.
We love conspiracy theories, the bigger the revelation the more appealing the theory - Hitler's diaries, Diana's assassination, MJ's death, the holy blood and the holy grail (the book that Dan Brown's based his own poxy book on - I really recommend you read this). The one reason I believ they suppress material even now is that if the world knows what they know it would damage their reputation. Maybe people would reject Catholicism, maybe Christianity, maybe religion once the truths got out - it's just my thoughts. So the only gospel written at the time of Jesus, if true, may cause a shift in minds of worshippers. Why would the church risk losing power? Hence censorship is for the good of the establishment NOT necessarily for the good of the individual.
Aspects of christianity can be tagged as vague, contradictory or impossible but it doesn't IMO make it a sham - more controversial yes! More interesting for me, most definitely!


Yes you just put it down to a T, I agree with everything you just said but the pope dismissing and classing this holy scripture as heresy is not a conspirisy, It actually happened and it is well known because at one point it was in newspapers because the man who found it went straight to the newspapers thinking he could get some money out of it and it got printed in a newspaper and it was taken straight to the pope and the it was dismissed even though some of the worlds top historians and scientists said that it was extemely likely it was a gospel of Jesus becuase it was wrote in a language only used by jesus and his deciples.

So like I said Religion (Christianity) could actually be a sham simply becuase I believe that Christianity was not crafted by God but by man in a way for it to work to powerful men's interets ( The Pope & The Religious men of the Vatican ) which is not how God wanted people to worship him but simply do what alot of people so at home, Pray in your bedroom or sat in your garden and your words will be heard by God becuase he is everywhere and inside you,

I give respect to all the TRUE Christians out there but I can tell you this on my life right now that a big percent of them are fakes.
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^ u saying gamiing aint a religion? There's controversy righ there
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Post Options Post Options   Quote -CYAN1DE- Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2012 at 8:54pm
The scroll you're referring to.. Wheren't those clay stone supposedly containing information about the Anunaki found in the old babylon (Iraq)? I bet that's the stuff the movie makers where reffering to or twisted it for their own movie. (But yet i could have been completely wrong here)

Personaly i believe any religion is just "made-up" to contain and control specific groups of people.

go bilderberg goooo!!!! (jokes)
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Religion has shifted from free will to a huge money making machine. No joke, The shift itself started when humans saw that potencial... Loong time ago.
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Originally posted by F.u.k-shaker

Religion has shifted from free will to a huge money making machine. No joke, The shift itself started when humans saw that potencial... Loong time ago.


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^that's why it's important to make a distinction between faith/ethics and organized religion.
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