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Trouble Brewing in the Big 12? |
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SilverJ-17 
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 Topic: Trouble Brewing in the Big 12?Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 10:01pm |
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I'm aware that not everyone here cares about college, but yeah..
http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1092612 With Nebraska (and maybe Missouri) possibly going to the the Big Ten and several others possibly going to the Pac 10, it looks like we might see a major power shakeup in the next few years, as the Big 12 might shrivel up (though Boise State might consider joining) and the Big Ten and Pac 10 might expand. |
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 9:43am |
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It's all up in the air right now. Texas, Texas A & M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and either Baylor or Colorado are supposedly going to the PAC 10. The PAC 10 wants Colorado but they may go to the MWC. So the PAC 10 may take Baylor even though they are a "religious school". The SEC is also wooing Texas A & M. I say let Nebraska leave and bring in TCU or Boise St. Keep the Big 12 going.
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SilverJ-17
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 11:53am |
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Yeah, smaller schools like Boise State and TCU deserve more respect than they get, even if it means they won't be so perfect anymore. Then again, didn't they both face a few bigger schools and still won anyways? If Butler's football team wasn't ****ty, I'd like to see them make a move to. If they were in a bigger conference than the Horizon league, they'd surely get more respect and be ranked higher should they do as good as they've done in the past few years. Well, they kind of already got that when they went to the National Championship, but still.
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 2:49pm |
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And another one: http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=txpac
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 4:24pm |
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So, Texas, Texas, Texas, or Texas might get this?
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 7:08pm |
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TCU is staying in MTN West and With Colorado going to Pac-10 that means most of the Big 12 teams are going there, and Big Ten will most likely pick up Mizzou.. And then what is left is that Kansas will be an independent school like Notre Dame.. Thats what will happen.... |
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 7:22pm |
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I've always wondered why the Big Ten's named is that, when they really have 11 teams. Now, they'll more than likely have 12 teams, unless the government intervenes (see last or second to last part of the first article). However, it still did mention that Boise State is interested or might move to the Big 12 at least, right? Also.. I just now noticed the BYU and Air Force part. I guess that if this does come to pass, the Big 12 will start to get a little desperate, though I usually see BYU's name every now and then. Aren't they kind of good to?
Oh, and I also forgot that Missouri and Baylor might want out. (the latter's reason being that it wants to stay with Texas, A & M, and the south) |
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 7:26pm |
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Big 12 is ending, Texas, A & M, OK, OK ST, TTU all expected to sign with Pac-10 tomorrow so looks like Boise State is stuck in WAC or WCC forget what they're in
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 7:30pm |
They did say that it's doomed if Nebraska leaves, but there's still a chance the government might at least stop the transfers over to the Pac 10. (They seem to be against moves to create four 16-team super conferences.) What I'm wondering though is what will happen to the teams left behind (like Missouri, Kansas, Baylor, and a few others)? Will they go independent or create a new conference from the ashes of the Big 12 North + Baylor? Missouri wants to be in the Big 10, but they seem to be getting the cold shoulder. |
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 7:33pm |
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Big Ten will most likely pick them up, if not, Kansas and Baylor will be independent and someone else will want Mizzou. And then no other teams will be moving unless MTN West wants Boise St then that'll be the last team to switch conferences
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 7:39pm |
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We'll just have to wait and see what goes down in the next couple days. Wasn't Envy a huge Big 12/ Texas fan? I wonder what his reaction to this would be. Honestly, if you ask me, Texas in the PAC seems a bit umm.. weird. Isn't the PAC-10 supposed to be Pacific Coast teams?
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Posted: 10 Jun 2010 at 7:52pm |
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Yeah but I'm thinking the NCAA will make them rename themselves if they're inviting the Texas' teams and the OK teams
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 10:32am |
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The five teams that remain in the BIG 12 will still have that automatic BCS Bowl bid. Tha'ts a good bargaining tool for them if they want to merge with another conference or recruit other schools into the BIG 12.
The government should stay the hell out of this. This is supposed to be a free market system not a communist or socialist system. Isn't Notre Dame supposed to go to the BIG 10? I also heard that there will be four 16 school "super conferences" and that they will band together and leave the NCAA.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 11:31am |
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I can kind of understand the government though. I think they're trying to prevent four groups of 16 teams from basically forming the college sports version of an oligopoly over the NCAA or something along the lines. I don't think they want only conferences running the show and always being in the big games, except maybe the Big Tourney, since anything can happen there. (see Butler)
Speaking of which, sometimes, I wonder if all these recent good seasons is going to make the bigger conferences look at Butler and consider taking them out of the Horizon League, but I guess not. How many small time schools can boast being in the Sweet 16 three or four times in eight years? I swear, Butler's seems to be becoming another Gonzaga in college hoops, which is kind of ironic, considering they're also the Bulldogs. |
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 12:04pm |
@Silver you make a good point for the conference switch for Butler, but mainly all these switchs are for football, basketball doesn't matter to them. Anyways NCAAM Basketball likes to keep tradition unlike football.. So it will BE ALL THE NCAA FOOTBALL's FAULT that the NCAA will be falling apart and will have to remake every conference and system in it... They're screwing up Tradition!!!
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 12:15pm |
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They did say that one of the four teams the Big Ten's looking at is Notre Dame though, along with Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 12:17pm |
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They'd rather pick up Mizzou then all those teams.. Every year its either been Norte Dame has declined to go to the Big Ten or its either the Big Ten has declined them
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 1:24pm |
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Boise State just joined MTN West Like I said they would
 Well now is left is Texas teams and OK teams to go to Pac-10
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 1:26pm |
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How much more major is the MTN West over Boise State's old division? Actually, what was their old division? I guess they think that the Big 12 is doomed to.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2010 at 1:42pm |
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MTN West is way better than their old conference.. MTN West has Utah, BYU and TCU who are usually ranked in the top 25
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Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 2:35am |
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It's official Texas and Oklahoma stayed. The only changes is that the Big 12 is now pretty much the Big 10 and vice-versa for the Big 10. Oh, and it's now the Pac-11, though they haven't given up yet and are now looking to snatch Utah.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-big12save061410 |
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