Basics of a good VCTF flagrun by BucKetHe4d
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Topic: Basics of a good VCTF flagrun by BucKetHe4d
Posted By: -DaGoN-
Subject: Basics of a good VCTF flagrun by BucKetHe4d
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 2:32pm
Alright, IMO these are the basics for a good VCTF flag run:
1. Prepare yourself:
1.1 THE most important thing for a good flag run is getting jump boots. It is useless to go in without, if by some reason you land in the enemy base and you don’t have jump boots, yeah then you can go for it if you think you stand a chance, but if it's a clan match or a match against a really good team then you should better kill yourself than wasting time.
1.2 Get extra health. Pick up as many health vials as you can find on your way to the enemy base, don’t go to every single place though cause it will surely happen that you take two minutes before a flag run and then when you have maximum health you get ran over by a Manta etc.. And that’s frustrating. So yeah, try to get at least the armor vest, maybe also the keg and shield belt, if you play in a clan war you can just talk to your teammates and ask them not to take the keg and shield belt. This also works in public servers, but then you must be there before the extra health respawns or a noob will just take it and then get killed.
1.3 Get the weapons you might be forced to use during your flag run (you must have a longbow, the rest is your personal thing, I personally try to always have link, flak, sniper, rocket and shock rifle with me). You can usually pick most of them up on your way to the flag and while you get jump boots and extra health. If you want (I personally don’t do it very often) you can try to get the redeemer before you go in, if you know how to use it right it could provide you a safe escape. But it might go wrong and then you are dead, all for nothing.
1.4 Tell your teammates before you go in for a flag run, they can give you good cover that is often needed in the midfield.
2. Check the situation:
2.1 Check the teams, are there many snipers in this match ? Any players who you know really good and what they will do/where they will stand ?
2.2 Check the base for any camping vehicles.
2.3 Check for camping players on foot.
BTW Don’t think that you need to check every single place in their base, I don’t even really stop to look I just look around while I’m going in, it’s not like you have to scout.
3. Plan your flag run:
3.1 After you checked the situation you can decide where you will go. Look for the best way to avoid campers and snipers or where it’s the easiest to kill them. You will get a feeling for this really soon.
3.2 Check if you can get pass the camping vehicles in their base, if for example a tank is camping on the flag then you should tell your teammates and they can help you take down the tank before you try to take the flag and then get immediately killed. If the camping vehicle is not directly on the flag then you might give it a try, but see that you get out of it’s range of fire/sight ASAP.
3.3 A person camping directly on the flag should not be a great problem, they are usually easily taken down, try doing it before you take the flag so he doesn’t see you before you can kill him.
4. The actual flag run:
These are just basic tips for flag runs, no instructions on where you should go.
4.1 Don’t go straight forward hoping nobody’s behind you, when you go around a corner and nobody’s on front of you shot a flag ball or better grenades with your rocket launcher back to the corner.
4.2 Do not stay on your hover board longer that 1 second unless someone of your team is with you and can assure you that you won’t be shot off your board. Cause if you do get shot, you are as good as dead. Use your hover board only to do quick dodges (you go on your board only for a really short time, then jump up with your board and then immediately go off your board while you’re still in midair, it makes you really fast. Especially when you do a wall jump after jumping off). If you are being flak spammed, do not go on your board at all unless you have a lot of practice with timing it (meaning if you’re good, you can listen to their shots and you will know when you can go on your board for a second without being shot off it)
4.3 As said, either be really quick OR be really slow by just hiding. They might think “Oh he must be already out of our base, I don’t see him anywhere. Let’s search the midfield!”. This does not work very often though, I wouldn’t count on it, so just try to be as quick as possible.
4.4 Again, encourage your team to provide you good cover ! Always tell them where you will go next, where you need them to be.
4.5 ALWAYS be moving, don’t stop for longer than 1 second, you will get sniped.
4.6 While moving, don’t just go straight forward, keep on jumping, doing side jumps all the time.
4.7 When there is a part on the map where you just have to go straight forward for a long time and where you are exposed to snipers (like on the bridge on Suspense) do a side jump (or if possible a wall jump) and then use a pair of jump boots. NOTE: doing side jumps and then using jump boots gets you further (and wall jumps even further) than just jumping normal and using jump boots. This is for not being shot so easily by snipers or other players.
4.8 Be aware before scoring the flag, check for someone waiting for you on the flag, check for incoming vehicles. There’s nothing more frustrating than doing an epic flag run and then you get killed just before scoring it (last second save).
That’s about it, for the basic routes where you can go on every map, just figure them out yourself or watch other players. I will not explain every single flag run on every map. But I will give some special tips for some vctf maps:
Suspense: Take the enemy jump boots. Go in soon after you take them, then when you have the flag they will respawn right when you are at their jump boots again and BAM you have three new jump boots without having to wait for them.
Necropolis:Do not stay on the bridge. Jump off , and when you’re under the bridge try switching sides, then stay on one side and then switch again, it will confuse the enemy. If your team has the darkwalker, try being mostly on the darkwalker side cause he can give great cover.
Sandstorm:Learn the hammer jumps. And don’t think you’re safe when you are in the redeemer tunnel, keep on sidejumping and most important take your longbow out , the redeemer is usually where vehicles will come after you. So turn around and look for any vehicles, then shoot them down.
Kargo:This map is OPTIMAL for doing the hoverboard dodges, because there are so many walls. It’s so much fun when you can do the jumps, you can be effing fast here. You can go different routes, it doesn’t matter because you can do the dodges everywhere in this map. Just help your team to get the tank and once you are in the midfield you should easily be able to score it. Try staying out of the area under the boat, because if you get killed there, the flag will be returned immediately.
I hope this helps some players who are trying to become a good flag runner. Please, feel free to post more advices. :)
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Posted By: Dr4g0v
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 3:30pm
I'm flag running with the instinct and i go where camper isn't here !!
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by DEVIL_-Dr4g0v-
I'm flag running with the instinct and i go where camper isn't here !! |
I know what you mean because I too flag run by instinct, but in your head you still do all these points, you just don't have to think about it anymore.
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 4:12pm
pssshhhh this is for chumps.
Khantusion taught me how to flag run:
1. Grab the flag
b. get on hover board
III. remember the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.
only use your instincts when it comes to the use of profanity.
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Posted By: T2D-QuickRC
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 4:29pm
Very nice BucKet... well said!.
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Posted By: jesse
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 4:29pm
coolworx taught me the same flag run fluffy, flawless!
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Posted By: Dr4g0v
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington
pssshhhh this is for chumps.
Khantusion taught me how to flag run:
1. Grab the flag
b. get on hover board
III. remember the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.
only use your instincts when it comes to the use of profanity. |
LMAO This is always some nice flag runn !!
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Posted By: Arkos315
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 4:18am
n don't get fancy with your flag run kills or you will get owned while your are in mid air...
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 5:52am
nice tips there.. couldnt of put it better myself... and i was gonna mention khantusion.. :(
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 6:59am
Originally posted by DEVIL_-Dr4g0v-
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington
pssshhhh this is for chumps.
Khantusion taught me how to flag run:
1. Grab the flag
b. get on hover board
III. remember the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line.
only use your instincts when it comes to the use of profanity. | LMAO This is always some nice flag runn !! |
Yeah I've always wondered what his secret is, same for coolworx..now I finally know :P
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Posted By: PROToTyPE
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2010 at 7:59am
on Suspense, i get a scorpion,and when im are on the bridge, self destruct so i can get jumpboots,then i jump in to the house,get there flag jumping in to the house, jumping to the jumpboots and jump down to the bridge!
then i just use hoverboard(if it is an enemy there, hide behind a tank or something)
then use the jump thing to the tower,get jump boots and jump to the house,and now you have scored! ![Thumbs Up Thumbs Up](http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2010 at 8:41am
Originally posted by PROToTyPE
on Suspense, i get a scorpion,and when im are on the bridge, self destruct so i can get jumpboots,then i jump in to the house,get there flag jumping in to the house, jumping to the jumpboots and jump down to the bridge!
then i just use hoverboard(if it is an enemy there, hide behind a tank or something)
then use the jump thing to the tower,get jump boots and jump to the house,and now you have scored! ![Thumbs Up Thumbs Up](http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) | It may work against the noobs in public servers, against a beast team it's different.
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Posted By: PROToTyPE
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 5:50am
ok,i never played a clan match :( just got 3 member![Cry Cry](http://iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)
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Posted By: TX2k7
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 6:54am
@dagon....idk man its worked on clans regularly, even when the runner is laggin ;)
@proto...its not specific routes that dictate a good flag run, its how u adapt ur route along the way as the battlefield evolves around u. ultimately, how effective a flag run is, is how well u can adapt to changes as they occur & deal with any obstacles. as u gain more experience, u get a feel of wat to expect if u do a certain thing...so u can b ready.
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Posted By: AK-47-D-MAFIA
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 7:39am
Originally posted by TX2k7
@dagon....idk man its worked on clans regularly, even when the runner is laggin ;)@proto...its not specific routes that dictate a good flag run, its how u adapt ur route along the way as the battlefield evolves around u. ultimately, how effective a flag run is, is how well u can adapt to changes as they occur & deal with any obstacles. as u gain more experience, u get a feel of wat to expect if u do a certain thing...so u can b ready. | couldnt agree more, +1
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 8:30am
Originally posted by PROToTyPE
ok,i never played a clan match :( just got 3 member![Cry Cry](http://iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif) | Hit me up when you got 4. :) We'll play you all modes, a friendly match.
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Posted By: PROToTyPE
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 11:00am
thanks DaGoN!cool my first clan match,
now we have:
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 11:44am
What modes do you play ?
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Posted By: PROToTyPE
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 11:51am
TDM(instagib)WAR and VCTF
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Posted By: Sephiroth_V7
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 2:57pm
Patience - Runs dont always have to be fast, take time to look.... or juke an enemy but looping around again. Unless theres 30 seconds left... then just spam flak behind you and haul ass lol.
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Posted By: TX2k7
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 3:16pm
lol talk bout patience seph....iv held da flag for 10mins a few times in necro b4 i could score o.O had time to piss & checkout TV while i waited lol
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Posted By: Sephiroth_V7
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 5:30pm
yeah been there lol, i've set down the controller on necro once and seriously made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, only to sit back down and wait some more.... at least i got a snack.
So what happened today tho, you couldn't hold the flag for longer then a minute and someone would murder you, nooby
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by Sephiroth_v7
Patience - Runs dont always have to be fast, take time to look.... or juke an enemy but looping around again. Unless theres 30 seconds left... then just spam flak behind you and haul ass lol. |
Youre giving flag running advice?
What's next the fatality school for advanced spelling?
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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington
Originally posted by Sephiroth_v7
Patience - Runs dont always have to be fast, take time to look.... or juke an enemy but looping around again. Unless theres 30 seconds left... then just spam flak behind you and haul ass lol. |
Youre giving flag running advice?
What's next the fatality school for advanced spelling?
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lmao hell naw.. funny as hell.. Seph is real good with the flag when he's not holding a team mates balls :)
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Posted By: Ppareja76
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 7:43pm
^seph always holds my ball. It's a fact.
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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 7:53pm
Originally posted by Ppareja76
^seph always holds my ball. It's a fact. |
DEEP_BALL_HOLDER yea buddy :)
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Posted By: Sephiroth_V7
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 9:12pm
someones gotta keep these old fvcks in deep from dieing, if i didn't have to worry bout fluffy all the time, i'd be cappin left and right like i use to ;)
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Posted By: streetz
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2010 at 12:30am
in my opinion the best flag runs are the ones were you cant be seen
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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2010 at 5:33am
Originally posted by Sephiroth_v7
someones gotta keep these old fvcks in deep from dieing, if i didn't have to worry bout fluffy all the time, i'd be cappin left and right like i use to ;) |
lol
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Posted By: LunarBlackcat
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 11:42pm
Originally posted by -DaGoN-
Alright, IMO these are the basics for a good VCTF flag run:
1. Prepare yourself:
1.1 THE most important thing for a good flag run is getting jump boots. It is useless to go in without, if by some reason you land in the enemy base and you don’t have jump boots, yeah then you can go for it if you think you stand a chance, but if it's a clan match or a match against a really good team then you should better kill yourself than wasting time.
1.2 Get extra health. Pick up as many health vials as you can find on your way to the enemy base, don’t go to every single place though cause it will surely happen that you take two minutes before a flag run and then when you have maximum health you get ran over by a Manta etc.. And that’s frustrating. So yeah, try to get at least the armor vest, maybe also the keg and shield belt, if you play in a clan war you can just talk to your teammates and ask them not to take the keg and shield belt. This also works in public servers, but then you must be there before the extra health respawns or a noob will just take it and then get killed.
1.3 Get the weapons you might be forced to use during your flag run (you must have a longbow, the rest is your personal thing, I personally try to always have link, flak, sniper, rocket and shock rifle with me). You can usually pick most of them up on your way to the flag and while you get jump boots and extra health. If you want (I personally don’t do it very often) you can try to get the redeemer before you go in, if you know how to use it right it could provide you a safe escape. But it might go wrong and then you are dead, all for nothing.
1.4 Tell your teammates before you go in for a flag run, they can give you good cover that is often needed in the midfield.
2. Check the situation:
2.1 Check the teams, are there many snipers in this match ? Any players who you know really good and what they will do/where they will stand ?
2.2 Check the base for any camping vehicles.
2.3 Check for camping players on foot.
BTW Don’t think that you need to check every single place in their base, I don’t even really stop to look I just look around while I’m going in, it’s not like you have to scout.
3. Plan your flag run:
3.1 After you checked the situation you can decide where you will go. Look for the best way to avoid campers and snipers or where it’s the easiest to kill them. You will get a feeling for this really soon.
3.2 Check if you can get pass the camping vehicles in their base, if for example a tank is camping on the flag then you should tell your teammates and they can help you take down the tank before you try to take the flag and then get immediately killed. If the camping vehicle is not directly on the flag then you might give it a try, but see that you get out of it’s range of fire/sight ASAP.
3.3 A person camping directly on the flag should not be a great problem, they are usually easily taken down, try doing it before you take the flag so he doesn’t see you before you can kill him.
4. The actual flag run:
These are just basic tips for flag runs, no instructions on where you should go.
4.1 Don’t go straight forward hoping nobody’s behind you, when you go around a corner and nobody’s on front of you shot a flag ball or better grenades with your rocket launcher back to the corner.
4.2 Do not stay on your hover board longer that 1 second unless someone of your team is with you and can assure you that you won’t be shot off your board. Cause if you do get shot, you are as good as dead. Use your hover board only to do quick dodges (you go on your board only for a really short time, then jump up with your board and then immediately go off your board while you’re still in midair, it makes you really fast. Especially when you do a wall jump after jumping off). If you are being flak spammed, do not go on your board at all unless you have a lot of practice with timing it (meaning if you’re good, you can listen to their shots and you will know when you can go on your board for a second without being shot off it)
4.3 As said, either be really quick OR be really slow by just hiding. They might think “Oh he must be already out of our base, I don’t see him anywhere. Let’s search the midfield!”. This does not work very often though, I wouldn’t count on it, so just try to be as quick as possible.
4.4 Again, encourage your team to provide you good cover ! Always tell them where you will go next, where you need them to be.
4.5 ALWAYS be moving, don’t stop for longer than 1 second, you will get sniped.
4.6 While moving, don’t just go straight forward, keep on jumping, doing side jumps all the time.
4.7 When there is a part on the map where you just have to go straight forward for a long time and where you are exposed to snipers (like on the bridge on Suspense) do a side jump (or if possible a wall jump) and then use a pair of jump boots. NOTE: doing side jumps and then using jump boots gets you further (and wall jumps even further) than just jumping normal and using jump boots. This is for not being shot so easily by snipers or other players.
4.8 Be aware before scoring the flag, check for someone waiting for you on the flag, check for incoming vehicles. There’s nothing more frustrating than doing an epic flag run and then you get killed just before scoring it (last second save).
That’s about it, for the basic routes where you can go on every map, just figure them out yourself or watch other players. I will not explain every single flag run on every map. But I will give some special tips for some vctf maps:
Suspense: Take the enemy jump boots. Go in soon after you take them, then when you have the flag they will respawn right when you are at their jump boots again and BAM you have three new jump boots without having to wait for them.
Necropolis:Do not stay on the bridge. Jump off , and when you’re under the bridge try switching sides, then stay on one side and then switch again, it will confuse the enemy. If your team has the darkwalker, try being mostly on the darkwalker side cause he can give great cover.
Sandstorm:Learn the hammer jumps. And don’t think you’re safe when you are in the redeemer tunnel, keep on sidejumping and most important take your longbow out , the redeemer is usually where vehicles will come after you. So turn around and look for any vehicles, then shoot them down.
Kargo:This map is OPTIMAL for doing the hoverboard dodges, because there are so many walls. It’s so much fun when you can do the jumps, you can be effing fast here. You can go different routes, it doesn’t matter because you can do the dodges everywhere in this map. Just help your team to get the tank and once you are in the midfield you should easily be able to score it. Try staying out of the area under the boat, because if you get killed there, the flag will be returned immediately.
I hope this helps some players who are trying to become a good flag runner. Please, feel free to post more advices. :) | I take credit for this entire post, since I damn well created the "good Flagrun" on UT3 PS3 and everybody else learned from my mastery. Look it up, or just check the leaderboards.
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Posted By: summ3rblink
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 3:57am
Really nice tutorial, kudos 4 you
It's always good that the best ones share their knowledge and dont keep it under their buckets ![LOL LOL](http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
I'm waiting your tutorial in video format also, now that would be awesome ![Tongue Tongue](http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Posted By: Bally_Man
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 7:02am
do pick ups n hoverboard it like coolworx XD
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 8:02am
lunar stop thinking your the grand master of ut3 vctf, you havent played in over a year and most of the good active players today would be better than u ever was... the only things ive saw u post on this website is mainly bragging... why do it when you havent played in ages?... your'e ut3 days are over now man get over yourself anyway theres a very simple fact of a good flag run... let XxGeNesiSVIIxX grab the flag :P lol
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Posted By: summ3rblink
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 8:25am
Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT
theres a very simple fact of a good flag run... let XxGeNesiSVIIxX grab the flag :P lol |
yes, but it continues:
-->... and let him make the flag run trough the whole Containment map and notice in that in scoring position Summerblink is there with hijacked Goliath camping right on the flag-->turn in to a mushy pile of minced meat-->let Summerblink return the flag. Post the results to iotd -thread ![LOL LOL](http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 8:55am
LOOOOL haha damn you for reminding me of that hahaha... good times lol. but i didnt even notice u were there until i jump booted it up to the flag area.. i saw u and was like.. aweee shiiii.. and then yes your'e right... i was turned into mince meat LOL
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 8:57am
"or just check the leaderboards" i just noticed this lol.... just because you are at the top 10 in the leaderboards... does not mean you are a top 10 player.. not anymore... the leaderboards mean nothing anyway..
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Posted By: Bally_Man
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 10:29am
Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT
"or just check the leaderboards" i just noticed this lol.... just because you are at the top 10 in the leaderboards... does not mean you are a top 10 player.. not anymore... the leaderboards mean nothing anyway.. | i distinctly remember u loving rank XD lol
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Posted By: PaulGranger21
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 10:55am
How bout, you just drop into the flag room....f*** **** up...take it...cap it
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:16am
Haha Paw style eh ? ;D
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:16am
Get lost Luna.
Or get on the game.
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Posted By: PaulGranger21
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:20am
Originally posted by -DaGoN-
Haha Paw style eh ? ;D |
haha yea pretty much....
how u doin dagon?
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:54am
Mhh much better than a while ago. I take it you're doing pretty good also ?
I respect your work. :)
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Posted By: PaulGranger21
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:58am
yes im doing great haha, i have an urge to play ut3 but im ps3'less :/
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Posted By: Deadaim
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 1:21pm
paul find a ride to my crib and you can play on my ps3. id pick you up but im lazy
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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:09pm
thats some noob ass flag run advise Dagon :) id rather hear Khantusions advise lol
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:14pm
You be trollin'
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by PaulGranger21
yes im doing great haha, i have an urge to play ut3 but im ps3'less :/ | Yh it would be sweet to see you on the game again
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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:21pm
Originally posted by -DaGoN-
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naw thats just my opinion.. ask your team for back up in a pub? lol not 1 useful thing in the whole flag run post!
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Posted By: LunarBlackcat
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT
"or just check the leaderboards" i just noticed this lol.... just because you are at the top 10 in the leaderboards... does not mean you are a top 10 player.. not anymore... the leaderboards mean nothing anyway.. |
Funny how I show upon these forums and site traffic goes up 300% the next day.
I have solidified my place as a UT3 elite, and I'm honestly the main
reason why anyone plays VCTF competitively. I taught all the greats how
to play, and yes some have evolved tremendously since then but without
great competition to play against, you really prove nothing but your
loyalty to the franchise, which must be admired.
Check yer facts soon. I ****d when the game was in it's heyday and I'll
surely be back better than ever in 2012 when hopefully a new UT drops
along with the newest hardware and Unreal Engine.
Patience will be my greatest strategic advantage.
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 7:23am
lol, yes you and your team was good.. at a time when everyone was average and only beginning to get good.. which is why u stood out then... because you were a couple of steps ahead of people who were just decent.... however.. the players that were decent back that are now good or very good.. i i can guarentee that the level of which you and your team was at back then played against the good or top players of today... it would not be pretty... and even against a team such as me, pinnacle, dragov, terror and dagon for example... i doubt you would stand a chance now.... i do have respect for the black cats since they obviously were the first good team in vctf and laid down the foundations of vctf for the years to come... what i dont have respect for is the fact that aftre years of playing the game u come in here still thinking that you and your clan are top dog and are still the best in vctf without considering the fact that obviously since 2 years all the players would obviosuly improve big time in not only killing but in vctf strategy too... all the big moves what you lot nwould of pulled of back in the day and all the top flag runs back then.. are now simply the flag runs used by pretty much everybody.. along with more... your team was great vback in the day but wouldnt keep up with the players of now.. or a year ago (when the game was more active)... also i dont havfe anything to prove... i was around in your times but in dm.. then i went to warfare and made a name for myself there.... and eventually made a name for myself in every mode...
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 7:30am
ah, and your comment about how u "created the good flag run".. no you didnt.. you obviosuly covered the basics which was stated here before anyone else... and had some good flag routes up your sleeve.. however no one can create a good flag run.. since a good flag run is not only about the basics jhere.. or the route you take... but ultimatly a good flag run is how well the runner can adapt to changing situations across the battlefield as he runs the flag.. therefore its mainly about how nwell the runner can improvise.. and every good player has different levels and ways of coping with various situations of the game.. so no you didnt create what a good flag run is...you would of found out and used the routes before anyone else did at that time...
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Posted By: Bally_Man
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 8:11am
Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT
ah, and your comment about how u "created the good flag run".. no you didnt.. you obviosuly covered the basics which was stated here before anyone else... and had some good flag routes up your sleeve.. however no one can create a good flag run.. since a good flag run is not only about the basics jhere.. or the route you take... but ultimatly a good flag run is how well the runner can adapt to changing situations across the battlefield as he runs the flag.. therefore its mainly about how nwell the runner can improvise.. and every good player has different levels and ways of coping with various situations of the game.. so no you didnt create what a good flag run is...you would of found out and used the routes before anyone else did at that time... | why do u care so much???? just enjoy the game mate! stop getting ya pink knickers in a twist XD! who gives a fck im mean seriously
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 12:21pm
i just dont like it when people brag too much.. especially when he hasnt played in so long and he still thinks his clan are still at the top lol.. but i dont care too much at all... :S i made a couple of posts about something.. dont mean i care about it too much...
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Posted By: DEVIL_associate
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by LunarBlackcat
Originally posted by -DaGoN-
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Alright, IMO these are the basics for a good VCTF flag run:
1. Prepare yourself:
1.1 THE most important thing for a good flag run is getting jump boots. It is useless to go in without, if by some reason you land in the enemy base and you don’t have jump boots, yeah then you can go for it if you think you stand a chance, but if it's a clan match or a match against a really good team then you should better kill yourself than wasting time.
1.2 Get extra health. Pick up as many health vials as you can find on your way to the enemy base, don’t go to every single place though cause it will surely happen that you take two minutes before a flag run and then when you have maximum health you get ran over by a Manta etc.. And that’s frustrating. So yeah, try to get at least the armor vest, maybe also the keg and shield belt, if you play in a clan war you can just talk to your teammates and ask them not to take the keg and shield belt. This also works in public servers, but then you must be there before the extra health respawns or a noob will just take it and then get killed.
1.3 Get the weapons you might be forced to use during your flag run (you must have a longbow, the rest is your personal thing, I personally try to always have link, flak, sniper, rocket and shock rifle with me). You can usually pick most of them up on your way to the flag and while you get jump boots and extra health. If you want (I personally don’t do it very often) you can try to get the redeemer before you go in, if you know how to use it right it could provide you a safe escape. But it might go wrong and then you are dead, all for nothing.
1.4 Tell your teammates before you go in for a flag run, they can give you good cover that is often needed in the midfield.
2. Check the situation:
2.1 Check the teams, are there many snipers in this match ? Any players who you know really good and what they will do/where they will stand ?
2.2 Check the base for any camping vehicles.
2.3 Check for camping players on foot.
BTW Don’t think that you need to check every single place in their base, I don’t even really stop to look I just look around while I’m going in, it’s not like you have to scout.
3. Plan your flag run:
3.1 After you checked the situation you can decide where you will go. Look for the best way to avoid campers and snipers or where it’s the easiest to kill them. You will get a feeling for this really soon.
3.2 Check if you can get pass the camping vehicles in their base, if for example a tank is camping on the flag then you should tell your teammates and they can help you take down the tank before you try to take the flag and then get immediately killed. If the camping vehicle is not directly on the flag then you might give it a try, but see that you get out of it’s range of fire/sight ASAP.
3.3 A person camping directly on the flag should not be a great problem, they are usually easily taken down, try doing it before you take the flag so he doesn’t see you before you can kill him.
4. The actual flag run:
These are just basic tips for flag runs, no instructions on where you should go.
4.1 Don’t go straight forward hoping nobody’s behind you, when you go around a corner and nobody’s on front of you shot a flag ball or better grenades with your rocket launcher back to the corner.
4.2 Do not stay on your hover board longer that 1 second unless someone of your team is with you and can assure you that you won’t be shot off your board. Cause if you do get shot, you are as good as dead. Use your hover board only to do quick dodges (you go on your board only for a really short time, then jump up with your board and then immediately go off your board while you’re still in midair, it makes you really fast. Especially when you do a wall jump after jumping off). If you are being flak spammed, do not go on your board at all unless you have a lot of practice with timing it (meaning if you’re good, you can listen to their shots and you will know when you can go on your board for a second without being shot off it)
4.3 As said, either be really quick OR be really slow by just hiding. They might think “Oh he must be already out of our base, I don’t see him anywhere. Let’s search the midfield!”. This does not work very often though, I wouldn’t count on it, so just try to be as quick as possible.
4.4 Again, encourage your team to provide you good cover ! Always tell them where you will go next, where you need them to be.
4.5 ALWAYS be moving, don’t stop for longer than 1 second, you will get sniped.
4.6 While moving, don’t just go straight forward, keep on jumping, doing side jumps all the time.
4.7 When there is a part on the map where you just have to go straight forward for a long time and where you are exposed to snipers (like on the bridge on Suspense) do a side jump (or if possible a wall jump) and then use a pair of jump boots. NOTE: doing side jumps and then using jump boots gets you further (and wall jumps even further) than just jumping normal and using jump boots. This is for not being shot so easily by snipers or other players.
4.8 Be aware before scoring the flag, check for someone waiting for you on the flag, check for incoming vehicles. There’s nothing more frustrating than doing an epic flag run and then you get killed just before scoring it (last second save).
That’s about it, for the basic routes where you can go on every map, just figure them out yourself or watch other players. I will not explain every single flag run on every map. But I will give some special tips for some vctf maps:
Suspense: Take the enemy jump boots. Go in soon after you take them, then when you have the flag they will respawn right when you are at their jump boots again and BAM you have three new jump boots without having to wait for them.
Necropolis:Do not stay on the bridge. Jump off , and when you’re under the bridge try switching sides, then stay on one side and then switch again, it will confuse the enemy. If your team has the darkwalker, try being mostly on the darkwalker side cause he can give great cover.
Sandstorm:Learn the hammer jumps. And don’t think you’re safe when you are in the redeemer tunnel, keep on sidejumping and most important take your longbow out , the redeemer is usually where vehicles will come after you. So turn around and look for any vehicles, then shoot them down.
Kargo:This map is OPTIMAL for doing the hoverboard dodges, because there are so many walls. It’s so much fun when you can do the jumps, you can be effing fast here. You can go different routes, it doesn’t matter because you can do the dodges everywhere in this map. Just help your team to get the tank and once you are in the midfield you should easily be able to score it. Try staying out of the area under the boat, because if you get killed there, the flag will be returned immediately.
I hope this helps some players who are trying to become a good flag runner. Please, feel free to post more advices. :) </span> | I take credit for this entire post, since I damn well created the "good Flagrun" on UT3 PS3 and everybody else learned from my mastery. Look it up, or just check the leaderboards. |
nice tuto dagon ;P oh n @ Lunar, COOL STORY BRO
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Posted By: -DaGoN-
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:55pm
LOL ![LOL LOL](http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: doom5day
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:57pm
LOL @ associate
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