Red or Blue?
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Topic: Red or Blue?
Posted By: F.u.k-shaker
Subject: Red or Blue?
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 3:54pm
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Hmmm, im sure all of u gamers have noticed that the "blue" side ingame has always a advantage!!
Why is it so?!
I primarly play vctf so i cant say anything about other maps, but containment, suspense,sandstorm,corruption has a blue favor side!?
This is strange to me, maybe the producers early thaught Necris were worse than axxon!
Any ideas?
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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:02pm
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**** don't get this started... blue is easier to win on. Same on avalanche and onyx coast.
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Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:04pm
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well, no, i don't think so man, i think both has the same probability to win, just needs to work it so carefully. well, i has been playing in both sides and well, i didn't see any diference.
and just corruption, but if you explode all the habilities of your vehicles and your team too you will dominate, of course.
i know vctf is a game for team work. so, all needs to all players for show their best. in this case i don't think so that the blue has advantage to win in this mode. -------------  ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:07pm
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No blue definately has an advantage... Its not even up for debate. Suspense its easier to defend with the tank. Sandstorm has a mini ledge to escape to the redeemer. Avalanche has better vehicles. Onyx Coast also has better vehicles on blue. Sure on necro or kargo there isn't really any difference but overall blue def has an advantage... ------------- |
Posted By: DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:08pm
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yeah but Red have a MAS.SIVE advanatge on stranded even though no1 plays that anymore
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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:09pm
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stranded is well sh1t lol... and not sure it does... its easier to score once you get the flag out of the base on blue.
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Posted By: F.u.k-shaker
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:12pm
And the "guarding" of redeemer!!
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Posted By: F.u.k-shaker
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:14pm
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PS: This was not ment to be a debat... for obvious reasons!
It was more a question of why they made it that way!!! -------------
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Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:15pm
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well, you may reason dan, but that is the idea for vctf, a match vs vehicles, just get a longbow and destroy them. and sure, avalanche and onyx hast better vehicles that so true. but that always depends of your team. ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:17pm
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I'm not sure why they did it, but sure if the teams are dead even then blue will win those maps i've mentioned 99 times out of 100 imo. ------------- |
Posted By: QwEsT
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 4:25pm
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4 sandstorm it doesnt matter what side ur on ------------- PSN: qwest4victory A-R_l2eQwEsT XBL: ViTuHMiN C |
Posted By: Nootsac
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 5:31pm
| thats why in a competitve match the maps are set to 1 point in warfare and 3 points in Vctf so each team will be able to start on each team with no unfair advantage. But in a P.U.G yeah your pretty much stuck with wherever epic puts you when you join a server |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 5:39pm
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Nootsac, if you don't mentioned P.U.G., what does mean that? i have suriosity to know.
i'm ignorant, hehehe ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: _EnVy_
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 5:52pm
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your a noob and an idiot if you dont think blue has the advantage on nearly every map. this is also why team stackers always stack on the blue side. not only does blue have the advantage on every map made, its harder for the human eye to see compared to red. ------------- 
sympathy one gets for nothing, EnVy must be earned" |
Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 5:58pm
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No rudy not allways depend on your team, blue have more adventage, just look on suspense necriss,what you can do when the necris have more vehicles? they have two nemesis and the axxon dont have even a hellbender, i dont know why epic did that disadvantage to the red team in that map. On corruption the dark walker is better that the goliath in that map becouse the potition, you can kill more with the dark walker that the goliath, the same with the nemesis vs hellbender on this map, on the Avalanche the turrets when you are blue have a better position and is more easy to kill the oponents who come from the prime node (if i am wrong tell me about this). Chears ------------- What, the hellbender is a sh¡t? I´ll make you think twice about it |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:13pm
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LOL6 Adrian! esta loco o que pedo we?
no mames!!!
todo depende de como juegues, los vehiculos no importan, bueno, al menos no usi mucho vehiculo en VCTF, soy flag run y con eso me basta, agregando que todo es posible, tu habilidad hace la diferencia, no mames! crei que ya sabias ver eso!
muy mal Axon y necris son la misma porqueria, ambos tienen lo suyo, el punto es saber utilizarlos. no hay ventaja ni desventaja en ambos, solo estrategia, has una buena y veras que todo es posible. ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:18pm
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lo se y lo entiendo, pero aun asi, en mi opinion me son mas funcionales algunos vehiculos como el viper ya k es un manta y un scorpion en uno, si es algo debil el viper al igual k manta, el darkwalker es todo terreno, el goliath no, se "puede" atorarsi te apendejas, el furry se puede escapar del misil del avril con mas facilidad los vehiculos de axon no. ------------- What, the hellbender is a sh¡t? I´ll make you think twice about it |
Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:23pm
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una cosa mas, entonces por que epic creo el stealth bender? fue por el nightshade osea que hay mas ventaja con "algunos vehiculos" de los necris k los axon. saludos/chears XD
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Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:26pm
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si, talvez tengas razon, pero el darkwalker es sencillo de destrozar con un escorpion, situate denajo y lo conseguiras, y el conductor se sale del darkwalker utiliza las cuchillas del scorpion y ya le hiciste, y si en ese momento piensas, robate el darkwalker.
ahuevo we! no mames! de todo se puede, solo es poner a practica una buena estrategia, como te dije, lo buenos VCTF players deben saber eso. ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:28pm
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epic create the stealthbender for lock the erradicator, and thats is a good point. cheers, hahaha ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:43pm
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No, the erradicator is from Axon, no from necris, they did stealthbender to have more balance with the nigthshade
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Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:49pm
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ya, but in defense for Axon, if you explode all the habilities of their vehicles, you will see another diference, just need to learn more how to use the vehicles, there is an example:
Mantha vs Viper
viper has advantage to win, BUT... if you combine the mantha habilities, you can defeat the viper, i'm 100% sure, it works to me, when you re shuting the viper, press rapidly the second fire od the mantha, you will block his guns, and when you jump press again the second fire for block the fire. is all about strategies bro. not just using vehicles a lot. all vehicles has their advantage, just, needs learn how to use. that all. ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 6:50pm
Ok, pero si el dark walker esta en un plano mas elevado k tu con el viper no puedes realizar esa tactica, con el goliath vs el viper no importa si esta mas arriba o abajo k tu el goliath, puedes elevarte y ejectarlo dandote mas posibilidad de que no impacte el misil de su cañon. ------------- What, the hellbender is a sh¡t? I´ll make you think twice about it |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 7:03pm
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i don't think so Zero, you can do awesome things if you know how. i need to teach more, hahaha.
anyway. UT3 has an awsome vehicles in both teams. just need coordinates and a great strategy, i just need that for play a match, if all fail well, i just kill myself, hahaha no jk, but ya. that kind of matches mades for UT3 something special, without that, idk why will happend to UT3, i'm wrong? ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 7:45pm
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yew, but we wrong on post, becouse the post´s name is Red or Blue? no necris vehicles vs axon vehicles, lol so any way the point was who have more adventage XD in some maps the blue have more adventage beocuse the vehicles (on suspence necris, the blue ones have more vehicles) or better topography can be beneficial to blue or red in case of hostile and stranded ------------- What, the hellbender is a sh¡t? I´ll make you think twice about it |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 10:11pm
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lol6 Adrian, of course, the vehicles has a rol in the advantage.
but, for close these ideas, just one thing, i repit it again: TEAM WORK, all is for that. ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 11:03pm
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This is interesting. I know of the subtle advantage on SandStorm ... corruption is obvious but what's the advantage in suspense (is there a subtle way the map is designed like the stairs in SS?) and containment? ------------- http://www.enjin.com/bf3-signature-generator" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2009 at 11:28pm
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of curse fluffy, but, anyway, in sandstors is true, blue team has advantage for the redeemer site, but, that fix it with a sentinel there, i mean, a player protecting that site. it depends.
but yeah, always blue has the advantage.
suspense and containment are an excelents maps for take a clean match, i love that maps, like necropolis too.
and, Nice game last nite man! was a great battle in OT, and i confused your team, hahaha but excelent game. ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 1:06am
Yes the team work is the anwere but im talking specifically about the vehicles, no about the way to destroy it ------------- What, the hellbender is a sh¡t? I´ll make you think twice about it |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 2:08am
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lol6 Adrian, you are an impure guy!hahaha holly sh1t, i'll kick your a** next time!
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Posted By: AK-47_Zero1256k
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 2:35am
lol ok, i will see you fall but not on vehicules becouse im bad on they, only on the nemesis im good, i say good not excelent XD ------------- What, the hellbender is a sh¡t? I´ll make you think twice about it |
Posted By: SickNviciouS
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 8:40am
When I'm team stacking (daily), I prefer blue because it's my favorite color. ------------- |
Posted By: INCReMENTAL
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 11:40am
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Well in TDM it doesn't matter if its red or blue, whichever has the BETTER PLAYERS wins. There is no advantages. In vehicles ill leave that up to you guys, lol. ------------- Currently playing MAG nightly with Wopr, we be owning on SVER n the EF CLAN. UT3 got boring, no competition, nothing else to prove, qM got dat **** on lock. |
Posted By: F.u.k-shaker
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 12:51pm
I really miss eradicator on suspense... its there on PC.
Confusing Jim/pete, i dont know anymore -------------
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 12:58pm
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Blue players seem to die easier than red players. ------------- |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 3:10pm
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Posted By: CarloThunder
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 3:14pm
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its probably obvious but i think the red team has an advantage on Stranded because they have that big cannon thing which has proved bloody annoying lol. ------------- all roun nice guy lol. |
Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 3:26pm
Your definitely pete! ------------- |
Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 3:32pm
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well, carlo, stranded is hard to play, and well, if you play with noobs in your site yeah, red can win, but, no if you got good players there, i like to kill flag carriers there with the snipper is funny when they try to scape. hahaha.
stranded has some places for scape when you got the red flag, and sure, the erradicator is always a sh1t, but use the stealthbender for lock it.
and, if there are a lot of good players, uyyyyyy, that is so interesting, never left your flag if you are defense, absolutely. ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: GOW_KillinUGood
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 4:14pm
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Blue side has advantage on Serenity - The Levi can hit red's core from a position at enemy prime, and I believe it is easier to hit red's core from the berserk platform when you are on blue. Blue definitely has advantage on Avalanche with their vehicle selection, and the ability to hit enemy core from far away on the hillside. Blue has a slight advantage on Torlan with the ability to capture center node faster with the orb by climbing the hill, and dropping in from above center node, without having to cross the bridge first. Blue has advantage on Dusk, with the two mine nodes in the center of the map - the node closer to the blue base spawns an orb, making it real easy to cap both nodes quickly. Islander - Blue has an easier time of hitting red's core, from multiple spots, you can even shoot red core all the way from your blue core's wall by the sniper rifle. Power Surge - I believe red has an advantage where they can hit blue's core from the little tower where the rocket launcher is. |
Posted By: _EnVy_
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2009 at 4:20pm
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its obv that the ut3 game designers where a bunch of crip thugs from south central L.A. -------------
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Posted By: M-Rox
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2009 at 10:37am
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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2009 at 10:38am
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Then why is your sig Pink :O
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Posted By: DVirus_R
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2009 at 5:15pm
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hahaha, good question, me too, blue is my favorite color, the robots looks better in bluen than in red! ------------- ☢ Phyx_ThunderBird |
Posted By: SRC_ROLLTIDE
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2009 at 6:22pm
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i actually have a harder time seeing Red characters but to me it seems blue does also even in map layout. On Coret, there is a box up top in the blue base to camp on, not one on red...In Strident a glitch allows you to hide behind the TV when the flag is low. In Hydrosis there is the glitch on the blue side only in the rockets. I am sure there are small things like that I can't remember in other maps and they are minor but funny how it is always on the blue side.
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Posted By: iAM_xplorer2233
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2009 at 6:32pm
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i used to run with the latin kings so i win ------------- http://img9.imageshack.us/i/callsigngeneratorphpza.png/">  "Since we like to travel she let us run a train."
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