Super-Sized Clan & Competition
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Topic: Super-Sized Clan & Competition
Posted By: Supreme_Venom
Subject: Super-Sized Clan & Competition
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 4:09pm
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Hey I don't want to start anything bad or blame anyone for anything, just want to try and raise awareness about what I think is causing the low competition scene in UT3..
And I want to hear what other players think about this, since competition is the heart, the soul, the "Spark" which is the only thing that can bring UT3 back out of its coma..
The problem?
I have to say its the Supersized clans as #1.. Lots being inactive, being to big which is consuming the whole player market and most of them hardly do any Scrims/ Clan battles and IF they do its mostly against the same clan again..
Another problem are these Sub clans which are part of or connected to another clan, which create more inactive and useless space..
Solution?
What I think has to change to make this happen is to change the attitude with this Supersizes-Clans and Double/Sub/ Extra/Buddy/ Whatever Clans
Try to really think about your clan and its activity, I know some clans won't rest until the last member left, but try to be real about the situation, admitting is the first step! Sometimes its better to stop and leave a clan in its glory and last remaining dignity.
As a clan try to put a limit on the amount of players, because if every clan consumes 15 - 30+ players then whats going to happen to other clans? *This is one of the biggest factors that is destroying the competition*
Its simple = Huge 15-30+ Clans consumes a big chunk of the Players Market > Effecting the amount of clans you can have competition with because all the (Good) players are already consumed by the big clans and wiping out any possibility for new clans with potential to grow and create competition.
Of course there are more reasons that destroyed competition, for example: Non-dedicated players, players that don't show up at scheduled battles. (I'm not saying you should sacrifise your social life, but if you agreed showing up at something scheduled then do it or reather say NO, because its frustrating to see scheduled battles and with no1 to show up. Wasting the time of players that ARE dedicated and willing to create competition..
This is has nothing to do with social life or anything, you have time to play pubs or bullsh1t around so you have time to make something work as well..
Also I heard rumors of Deadaim wanting to bring back a clan with former qM members, which I think is great, they have proofen to be one of the last dedicated players out there, and they still are able to proof it. Just like FnA & tRi used to be.
And to round this up, I hereby apologise about the negative things I have said about Paw and some other qM members.. Altough Pawweezy did say some bad stuff which I still dont think is cool, he and other qM members actually care about the competition.. and probably why he and some other got frustrated on other poeple is because they realised how worse it has gotten with everything.
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Posted By: Pinnacle
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 4:31pm
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Venom, I see your point, but perhaps there is a different angle to it. I will use ckc as an example. We have 14 players on our roster, of which 11 are fully active and 3 are a phone call away. We do not recruit, are not looking for talent, but are a group of PSN friends that player together.
I understand the goal of expanding the competition of this game. I have been all for it from day 1. However, a team of players up to 15 has major advantages to promoting competition. Back in the day, clan battles were 8 vs. 8. Then they suddenly dropped to 5 vs. 5, 4 vs. 4, etc. In the vehicle modes, the cherry number is about 6 vs. 6. However, it is very difficult to have all 14 players online on a given day at a specified time. To ensure that the match is not posponed, we usually gaurentee that 8 will show. That allows everyone on the team some latitude with their own lives. If we only had 5-6 players and had a match set up and 2 did not show due to last minute obligations, then the match is postposned. How do we solve this, except to have a few more players?
I am a firm believer that teams should not simply recruit a player for talent purposes only. Win/Lose, it really makes absolutely no difference, since we are not playing for anything, a trophy, money, prize, etc. Don't get me wrong, we all love winning, but it's more about having fun, than just having the claim that you beat abother team. Therefore, I have always believed that the team should be a group of friends, not necessariy the based on talent. ckc is not only about UT3. The whole team plays R2, LBP and many other games together on a daily basis. If ckc was simply about talent, I probably would not be on the roster. But since those 14 players are the ones I play with day in and day out, it was only natural to come together and join a group named ckc.
I can't speak for other teams, since everyone's goal is different, but your point is well taken. However, I would also encourage most teams to think outside the "known" players and look at some of the fresh talent that has been online. Just the other day I was playing with a player who just picked up this game 2 weeks ago. Although he had no clue as to what to do in warfare, the guy was a killing machine. He asked a few questions and by the end of the match, he had picked up on the basics. I expect this kid will become a great player. He did really well and with some guidance from you veterans, these players may be the new crop of beasts.
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Posted By: _EnVy_
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:11pm
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if you were trying all these years to make a name for your self, the first think you would try and do is hop on their nuts too. thats the way it goes...
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Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:18pm
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well where do i start..........i believe iAM is one of the supersized clans you're referring to. 1. we are willing to play any mode 2. everyone in iAM has at least 1 or more games we play with each other 3. I HAVE AN OPEN CHALLENGE THREAD IN WHICH I CHALLENGED ANY TEAM THAT WE HAVE NOT PLAYED IN ANY GIVEN MODE. NO RESPONSE 4. 90% of my roster is on and active so i'd have to COMPLETELY DISAGREE ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Do_Or_Die_420
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:20pm
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A-R doesnt have no problems with being a bigger clan....No one has ever b!tched about playin time or needing to get their shine on. I've made it clear to everyone in this clan they're free to leave anytime they want. No one is holdin a gun to their head & we wont get butthurt if they wanna run wit a different clan. Do what's best for you & dont worry about anyone else. No clan is the same as the next. Every clan is filled with talented players & chill ppl who click & have fun playing this game. Once you stop having fun in this game you should put it aside & move along. ------------- |
Posted By: RemY
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:25pm
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imo if teams had 7 - 8 man roster, there would be more teams and more competition. Do separate squads similar to the original. CoD4 on GB had same teams with different rosters ex: FeaR and FeaR CA were the same team but had a different squad they rolled with.
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Posted By: iAM_NotImpressed
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:25pm
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all clans suck balls. discuss. ------------- The worst of the best. PS3 = YLOD |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:33pm
i got a vctf squad and a warfare squad ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Do_Or_Die_420
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:34pm
Sounds like you're living the Boss Life.... ------------- |
Posted By: _EnVy_
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:35pm
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the big clans i think do swallow up all the potential of clan matches. either there should be just 2 super clans, or lots of 4-8 member clans. this would help out ladders and offer better clan match play. not these d*** riding team stacking clans they totally f*** **** up/
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sympathy one gets for nothing, EnVy must be earned" |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:38pm
ENVY not to rain on your parade but you didn't complain when you were apart of iAM. and i believe we were still active as active can be right? please correct me if i'm wrong ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: iAM_NotImpressed
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:40pm
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hold on. i didn't sign up for any d-ick riding. d-ick riding is not in my iAM contract. i'm on strike until my dental benefits are paid. ------------- The worst of the best. PS3 = YLOD |
Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:45pm
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Well, at least someone has gotten something from this, me. Considering how uninvolved I am anymore, among other things, I've decided to leave DEEP/ Heavenly and pursue either a smaller clan or making TN-B (The New-Bs) more than just a 2v2 team. I really enjoyed being a part of Heavenly, but I feel that I might be of use elsewhere (like a smaller clan), so in the spirit of the game, I've decided to look for other options. ------------- |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:45pm
nah we don't ride like that. we role deep in other areas. ask kayotic, he has a little army over there ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Pinnacle
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:46pm
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There are 27 "active" clans on this site, not including some that are subdivisions of others. I don't see the problem. If someone wants a match with another team, then just go to their leader and ask them. Isn't it that simple? Everyone started at ground zero in this game, so if the bigger/badder teams are scaring some people, then just challenge the smaller teams and practice until you beat them. ------------- |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:50pm
PREACH ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:50pm
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:55pm
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Posted By: Pinnacle
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 6:59pm
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Crow, I get what you're saying, but we've had the same motto since June 2008. Nothing has changed. The first match ckc ever had was against a well organized SMP. This is the day after I joined ckc in June 2008. Did we know we were going to lose? Yes, but we played to get better and have fun with the group. We have never missed a match and never cared whether we won or lost. Anyone can win on any given day. We've practiced with team to help them get better. We've helped out individual players, etc. My point is not that anyone should shy away from playing. My point was that people shouldn't shy away because they feel their team may get beat. I think we are on the same page with this. Like PcX, we've always actively tried to set up matches, friendlies, etc. Some teams show up, some say yes, some say no. For example, we had a match scheduled against MEGA last weekend and one of their players didn't show. Instead of canceling, we agreed to have it this coming weekend. We are not even a foot mode team, but it will be fun having the challenge of some of the best ctf players like, Veda, Rican, etc. ------------- |
Posted By: Pinnacle
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 7:02pm
Ok, I see the point you are making. I see a bigger issue at hand. The problem with playing a team like qM isn't that they are not the best at ctf and will destroy any team. It's that when asked about a match, they say they only play ctf. So if there is a vehicle-centric team that is willing to play, shouldn't it be fair that all the modes that both teams play get played?
If qM would like an honest challenge, I'm willing to accept that. We would be willing to play ctf and tdm, with the understanding that they play warfare and vctf. I thing this would provide an honest challenge on both sides. We are learning ctf and tdm and if I'm not mistaken they are trying to improve in the vehicle modes. ------------- |
Posted By: INCReMENTAL
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 1:08am
| Wrong qM said they play anymode, anytime. And no qM wasnt just the best at CTF, qM was the best at all foot modes and could damn near learn anymode to become dominant. The fact was no one excepted the challenge n the beginning. PERIOD>>>>>>...... |
Posted By: Supreme_Venom
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 1:39am
I knew the friends & just for fun factor ace card was gonna be used.. there isn't much I can say about it.. except for this:
How can you have fun the whole time if there is nothing serious to work for once in a while? Thats like saying "we are always on a vacation" How can it be a vacation if you never go to work?
Then explain me why competition is nowhere in sight? It's a fact you can't deny, if this isn't causing it then what it?
You can't possibly tell me you enjoy doing clanbattles with the same clans over and over or totally slaughtering newbie clans? ------------- |
Posted By: NecroBeestiality
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 1:57am
Ooops! You forgot this..... http://img168.imageshack.us/i/gasoline1thumb.jpg/">  Ahhh sorry I couldn't resist. ------------- House Music All Night Long "Insted of peaple coming on this website were peaple are b**ing about peaple behind each uthers backs" - QuickRC |
Posted By: NecroBeestiality
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 2:09am
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If you took all the clans, added up all the people in them, then broke those people into groups of 8......well I don't even know if that would work out to more clans then we have now cuz of all the small clans but lets just say it made lots of new clans. Excuse the gigantic run-on. Lets also say that most of these clans were made of people that got along and had compatible personalities. Would there be more action? I think so, especially if the skill was distributed conisistently. But that is never going to happen.....the conclusions I am reaching here are pretty simple and easy to reach. It is pretty obvious many people in large clans are willing to trade action for comradery. You can make judgements or state opinions about it but why else would big clans who never get matches stay together? They like being a brotherhood and I am not referring to AR or any one clan. No one is stopping anyone from breaking up their clans for smaller ones. Big clans stay big clans because they want to. You can call it the the death of competition or the death of the game. By the looks (I speculate) of their private threads and the fact they big clans stay in tact I am guessing they call it fun. ------------- House Music All Night Long "Insted of peaple coming on this website were peaple are b**ing about peaple behind each uthers backs" - QuickRC |
Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 2:15am
Do they independently find and play matches though? ------------- |
Posted By: Pinnacle
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 8:57am
Here's the funniest part of what you just stated. ckc started out as a bunch of noobs, literally, not one player knew what they were doing. Some of us wanted to join teams back in the day, but were denied. Think May 2008. We didn't b**** about the competition, SMP, GOW, tRi, PcX, DsX, etc. We looked up to them like they were gods. We played against all of them and you know what happened, we got our behinds handed to us. Then, by a stroke of genius, we all started figuring out how this game works as we just played for fun. And another miracle occurred, we got a bit better at the game.
The fact of the matter is that if you want a team to get better to challenge the competition, then get a group together and keep playing until the TEAM gets better. I always tell everyone that I speak with in chat the same thing, that creating an All-Star roster doesn't matter. We have never cared whether a player was good or bad. Enough playing time and they'd fit into our system. Not one person is going to make or break a team. ckc may not have the top players in any mode, but I a**ure you that we can give anyone a run for their money.
As for matches, we do have simple rules, but we have reached out to almost every team on this site. For over a year and a half we have consitently reached out to get matches going. There are often scheduling conflicts with other teams (usually work schedules) and that is why matches are postponed. Also, just so you know, we don't post the results of ckc vs. any team, since we really don't care what the results are. We have matches and you probably don't even know they are going on.
In the past few months, the B-Team, comprised of mostly ckc with TX and JP, played against Heavenly, tRi, Mega, Devil. ckc joined another team for practice 3 days a week for over a month and each day was a fierce battle. We played against PcX in tdm 2 weeks ago.
Just yesterday, Crow and I spoke regarding a possible match with qM. We have a match scheduled with MEGA this weekend. We are in discussions with tRi, F.u.K. and PcX for matches. Then we have a B-Team match against A-R. Every sunday, we have interclan matches. Is this what you call being on vacation? All this, while we only play for fun. ------------- |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 12:50pm
did you read the part where i said i have an open challenge thread that no one responds to? the biggest problem i have is the other teams organization and or communication. 3 separate occasions with MEGA, tRi and 420 THEY issued an open challenge, iAM responded, iAM showed up and guess what the other team either no showed or didn't have enough players to participate (5). you can't blame a clan size for lack of competition. every clan is different in how they operate. i can get a match with A-R any day of the week. thats a given. ckc same situation just gotta pick the right day. tRi same thing only if coordinated in ADVANCE cause most likely it'll be early on SATURDAY because of time and they have school. DEEP once they get there roster together we'll be playing them as well. when it comes to SRC, UNREAL, AK-47, DEVIL PCX, 187,Sw, tOp, twisted, the eMpire and DSX they are either reforming their clan, don't have enough people to play the mode wanting to be played or just don't wanna play for whatever reason as of yet. i said all that to say this...it is easier to get a clan match a bigger ACTIVE clan than it is with a smaller one. iAM is WILLING to play any mode with notice. so bigger clans aren't hurting this game or slowing down competition. it's the organization of EACH individual clan that's going to determine how much and who you get action against ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 2:21pm
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I want iAM's a$$es in Snowreal. Consider this a challenge from ckc. ------------- |
Posted By: SickNviciouS
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 2:34pm
Is that crickets that I hear, or is it A-R snoring and sitting idle? ------------- |
Posted By: Supreme_Venom
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 2:52pm
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Hey I don't care whether you guys agree or not, its a fact that there is no competition.. having a few clan matches that you set up doesn't mean automatically means competition.. Examples:The League, it took.. what 1 year? I have seen some messages about clans having played, but I havn't seen any finals or excitement about it and still up till now I have heard nothing much it.. it got neglected..
EU vs. US, a short succes thanks to some players that bothered to show up, the final matches that would have created the final results.. never happened..
iAM 1v1 Cash Prize Tourney, went greater then expected, the finals? Postponed for 2 weekends now =\
Hey I'm just saying, look at the facts.
Competition means having dedication, yet it failed to show so many times. ------------- |
Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 2:55pm
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I find good competition every night when I play WF, CTF and VCTF. Try playing Spoondog in CTF and see if that doesn't get your competitve juices flowing. ------------- |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 2:57pm
mmmmm...juice. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 3:04pm
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We just lost two players today.
Thats not going to make us more competitve, its only going to make it harder for us get 5 guys on for a match. If we had more we could depend on more to show up.
Most of us have careers, school, children, wives, or girlfriends, (and in my case all of the above plus several mistresses and a love affair with wine and vodka)
In my opinion the league failed because it was too broad, too many modes made it unmanageable.
There should be a leauge or ladder for each mode.
That is exactly why the 1v1 had relative success, its focus was narrow.
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Posted By: Supreme_Venom
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 3:06pm
I did and I would love to play it again and again, but I hardly see good pubs. Even rooms that ping 200+ I am desperate to play on bad ping just to get a good match going..
I'm always logging in the PUG Text Chat and there is hardly anyone on or willing to do PUGS.. ------------- |
Posted By: Deadaim
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 3:07pm
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theres no reason for teams to be as big as some are, while they may be active teams ready to play.. thats acctually part of the problem.. all the active players who want to play are on the supersized teams.. whats the point of having 20 people ready to play a 5on5 if you have noone to play vs.
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Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 3:39pm
what's the point of a smaller clan not playing, claiming smaller clans work better for them? it goes both ways. ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Deadaim
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 4:08pm
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i just want all teams to play, the smaller and big.. wish there was a clear list of the teams that were actively scrimming and what modes or conditions they want. and big teams arent hurting the game.. the game has been like this before most of the big teams swole up to the size they are, im just not personally a fan of being in a big team, and i guess thats why i dont like them idk, but with ut3 in specific the big teams are full of a couple of killer squads each and i know there would be alot more active teams if they werent all under 1 flag.-------------
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Posted By: _EnVy_
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 4:51pm
yes i did, i always some what b**** about everything. but wasnt then when i was posing my theory about just having 2 super clans only? i remember several times talking about that to you. trust me i b****ed about iAM being to big and just realized this is the way its going to end up. i also was the one who even told you to start removing all the inactive players you had on that list and you did lol.. -------------
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 5:36pm
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Posted By: GoDead
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 6:52pm
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SupremeVenom - "Just like FnA & tRi used to be. " ^used to be? Are you under the impression that tRi isn't active? ------------- http://img100.imageshack.us/i/godeadbanner1.jpg/"> 
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Posted By: Heavenly_tRiNiTy
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 7:07pm
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Man you guys still trying to come up with a formula for clans in order to resolve "the wider issues"? A clan exist in its form because of what the members relate to in this game - nothing more. They have their own agenda/ethos - e.g. iAM to cover modes for scrims, matches CKC - to have fun qM - to dominate fiercely so as "they won't say gg" at the end of matches Heavenly - fair, sporting competition, respect for the opposition (DEEP will be the same no doubt). Label it however you want but tomorrow you will still see super-sized clans, inactive players on rosters, small clans, peeps in 2-3 clans and some that are in transit (not in a clan) etc. The problem only exists because you see it as such. The lifespan of this game does not depend on what you call competition it is self-interest - yes that's what encourages participation. Competition comes more from internal factors than external factors. This community hopefully will move together onto the next great FPS - cos that's our flava. So we shouldn't worry too much about UT3, the next great FPS will soon come and off we will trot to form clans and start this sh1t again. ------------- Cos I'm Wonderman...I'll take that knife and shove it up your a$$! |
Posted By: NecroBeestiality
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 10:09pm
YES. Clan competition is secondary to my own personal quest to become a very good player. My learning curve with anything is typically shi tty but once I get something down I am better than most. I am used to sucking at new skills, games, subjects and activities longer than my peers and I am used to being better than they are once I finally "get it". No scope headshots and crazy wall dodge frags are what I am chasing and I know it will be a long time before I get there. Clan matches or not. I have a feeling this personal agenda of mine is something most players have in their own way. Maybe not identical to mine, but they have their reasons for playing that serve their own interests differing from group competition. ------------- House Music All Night Long "Insted of peaple coming on this website were peaple are b**ing about peaple behind each uthers backs" - QuickRC |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 10:25pm
you missed the point....we always show up for the matches. i have a vctf squad and a warfare squad. any other mode played will be a combo from each. if theres a warfare match my warfare players have first dibs on it regardless if one doesn't show (8vs8 ex) then i tap into the vctf pool of who wants to play and vise versa. i don't use the same players each and every single time to exclude others. everyone gets an equal piece of the killing field. ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Deadaim
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 10:28pm
who said we dont say GG ? i always do.. -------------
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2009 at 10:33pm
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Posted By: _EnVy_
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 12:06am
keep on keeping on!! best post ive read on this forum no bs... -------------
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Posted By: Heavenly_tRiNiTy
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 4:56am
Hey its nothing personal but I think Phantaci said it I believe and someone else (maybe Bum?) endorsed it. And Paw once called someone else a "British fk" when he said it in a warfare game - Downtown to be exact. It doesn't make you ingracious players, far from it im just saying clans seem to be motivated by their collective agendas. qM play hardball yes bt it doesn't make that bad for the game. I aint calling anyone out its not my place! afaik 'your game, you play the way you want'. Its not my bag, I dont identify with it but if we were all the same this UT3 universe of ours would be fkn boring dont you think? ------------- Cos I'm Wonderman...I'll take that knife and shove it up your a$$! |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 6:51am
i'm tired of explaining ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 7:24am
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you dont have to be immature about it two fase the whole "im tired of explaining" is making it seems like ur superior than me that you dont have to explain anything to me its more of the fact that you know you included this community has gone the wrong way of supporting this game in any way shape or form except for this website... though this website was made to bring people together and it either brought people too close together that no one wants to do **** with this game except for the duelers obviously or it brought people so far apart that no one wants to do anything except for the duelers im not some kid you can just end a convo by sayin im tired of explaining because your simpley not going the correct way at approaching me for me to understand you. -------------
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 11:05am
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Crow is a fudge packer. ------------- |
Posted By: Supreme_Venom
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 11:47am
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I'm saying tRi and FnA have seen way better days then we are in now. ------------- |
Posted By: Supreme_Venom
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 11:53am
And Bingo was his name-o.
Also to add, its even better for a players skill to increase when fighting in a smaller clan, because that way he is being forced into learning more modes and thus actually creating more competition in all modes & better players all-round.
Also there is more pressure for a player in a small clan to become better, because you don't want to let your teammates down..
On the other hand with big clans the attitude for allot of players are:
"Well we have a big clan so someone else will show up if I can't or someone else can replace me because I'm not that good in that mode" and thats another factor whats causing this negative downgoing spiral. ------------- |
Posted By: iAM_NotImpressed
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 2:52pm
Obvious. You should have seen the delicious gift basket he sent me last Christmas, it was packed with fudge.
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 3:40pm
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I think the problem is with people being in more than one clan at the same time. How can you possibly play and compete against yourself? That's what's killing the competittion. ------------- |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2009 at 4:42pm
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Posted By: Sk-iller
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 10:48am
I think it's the Super Small clans that cause the problem
They run around with 3-5 players like little hobbit clans trying to be the most skilled unit out there but really don't provide any clan matches of worth.
Hobbit clans have no fun!
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Posted By: M-Rox
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 10:54am
LMAO someone should create a Hobbit mod. ------------- |
Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 10:59am
lol I know. I don't mind playing 5v5 but its gay having to wait around for years just for them to get their 3rd, 4th and 5th person on. 5v5 cool, 4v4 ok... 3v3 no way. ------------- |
Posted By: Sk-iller
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 1:28pm
So the smaller you get the harder to hit you are. Reverse Titan!
Loads of little yodas running around with improved speed.
We've just figured out what the nxt update is. ------------- http://a.imagehost.org/view/0118/Sk-iller">
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Posted By: M-Rox
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 1:40pm
LMAO!  ------------- |
Posted By: MEGA_DRoNE
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 1:29pm
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question if big clans are so bad y did crow and inc join qm instead of making a new clan qm already had a bad a** clan the few times ive got to battle qm crow and inc were not there they didnt need them and if u made more small clans there would be more no shows i think its pointless to argue that big clans are not good for ut3 because they are so give it up please ------------- PSN = MEGA_DRoNE,DR-o-NE |
Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 1:32pm
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qM had how many active players by then, 5? If that brought them up to 7 people total available to wars I'd say there's nothing wrong with that. ------------- |
Posted By: MEGA_DRoNE
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 1:43pm
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they had others at the time they just werent active they also added foxy they did the same thing every other clan does y argue? ------------- PSN = MEGA_DRoNE,DR-o-NE |
Posted By: puertoRICAN
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 2:37pm
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i think your talking about uP....... yea, they had foxy and Ric0 aswell. i think! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnAYGqjcGEE&feature=youtu.be Watch in 720P....duh |
Posted By: VEDA
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 2:52pm
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Here's the biggest problem. Its alot of new talent out there that you new clans and small clans are overlooking. For Example, NCF_Dagrynch. NCF in his name stand for "NEW CLAN FAIL" he's been playing this game for a long a** time and no one has picked him up. He has a mic, a joystick, and he's a good player. When I was recruited in MEGA we got better as a team and tought each other and we got better as a team. So if you guys would just take the time and get some fresh players and teach and work with them the competition level will raise like a flood and so will the size of this community. We put work in to make our clan what it is today. Its your turn now, make it fn happen. We dont hold players against their will to play with another clan if they want to and that would make them happy we wouldnt disagree with it. So stop looking at rosters and wishing you had him and her and him and pick up him and her or him and make it pop peeps. Its not hard. Every team on here recruited and got better as a team. tRi, qM, Fna as should you. I can name players all day on here that could be recruited ------------- |
Posted By: VEDA
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 2:56pm
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Let me know if you need a list ------------- |
Posted By: SRC_ROLLTIDE
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 4:50pm
I've tried to get dagrynch to join SRC twice...some just like to freelance I suppose ------------- No pension to retire <_< "They've got a name for the winners in the world...they call Alabama the Crimson Tide."-Steely Dan AKA: RollTideAlabama, Rage-of-ROLLTIDE, Fear-of-ROLLTIDE |
Posted By: puertoRICAN
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 5:00pm
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he has said to me that he is still down with AK47 if they come back, if not then he will be with I87... dagrynch is a cool dude and a good player. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnAYGqjcGEE&feature=youtu.be Watch in 720P....duh |
Posted By: hcruiix
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 5:38pm
------------- psshhhh...yea i killt ya....how bout ya justify my thug!!! |
Posted By: RemY
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 6:38pm
Not many or not at all. ------------- name_is_clantag |
Posted By: VEDA
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 7:59pm
Here's 10 just to bs around
1. Grog_Grog - currently on the forums
2. DaGrynch
3. Ak-47_Zero1256k
4. General Rodec - not sure if he's an alt account but he's nasty
5. Sul2Geon - just seen him earlier pretty good has potential
6. UR_DADDYs_DADDY - Not sure if he's in a clan but he's pretty good and has a mic
7. Pochilam - looking at him now he's pretty good
8. Believer41 - Potential
9. DrayB33ZY - Defensive player, potential, mic, available
10. Hell throw Gamadik in there he/she has been playing for awhile and im sure that with a little work he/she could be a beast ------------- |
Posted By: hcruiix
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 8:27pm
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mite as well throw in felipetti in there.........................sul2Geon, im sure is an aliaser cuz he almost beat cbizzy nd iv nevr seen him bfore. ------------- psshhhh...yea i killt ya....how bout ya justify my thug!!! |
Posted By: VEDA
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 8:48pm
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hell throw Ckeli in there lol ------------- |
Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 9:45pm
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Kudos to Venom for the creation of a thought provoking thread. While I don't discount the imperial size of some clans as having a detrimental effect on the game, it isn't what has me playing less and less these days. Primarily, it's the general d1ckmanship of so many regulars that keeps me away. ------------- 
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Posted By: NecroBeestiality
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2009 at 11:17pm
Yeah the only way he would work is if you speak portuguese. ------------- House Music All Night Long "Insted of peaple coming on this website were peaple are b**ing about peaple behind each uthers backs" - QuickRC |
Posted By: grog_grog
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2009 at 12:20am
not sure i want to be in that same list  ------------- The rocket is my master. |