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Topic: College Hoops
Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Subject: College Hoops
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 1:02pm
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Any college hoops fans out there? I'm a BIG 'Cuse fan and just wanted to take a moment to give props to the #1 team in the country. Of course, ranking means little come tourney time (see NC State 83). Also, Syracuse has a history of not being able to beat the teams they should beat.
Yes, the Big East is the best conference in the country for hoops.
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Posted By: willisasmith
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 1:51am
| Total hoops fan here but im a BLUE DEVIL man my self and for the best conference it has to be the big 12 baby go COWBOYS |
Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 8:46am
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I can't fault you for being a Duke fan. Great program with a great coach.
The Big12 as the best hoops conference? No way. I've got the ACC above them, which is not quite as good as the Big East. -------------
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 10:57am
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College Basket ball is my second favorite spectator sport next to the NFL.
I think the NBA is a joke, but college hoops is the epitomy of competiton and teamwork.
Im a Big Ten fan, Wisconsin is my Alma Mater. Badgers will proly tie for second place with MSU
for the Big Ten but could easily win the conference tourney and get probably a 3 seed
Most of my family graduated from Kansas, but Im Grateful Red all the way.
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Posted By: Do_Or_Die_420
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 12:00pm
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I'm a die hard UNC Tarheels fan even though this year has been very disapointing...I have faith with the recruits coming in next year they'll bounce right back..Cant wait too fill out my brackets & see which cinderalla team crushes my hopes & dreams! ------------- |
Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 12:37pm
I generally care more towards the Big Tourney, which is obviously coming up, as it is now about time for March Madness. I see that two of my state's teams are in it to, both of which I like a lot. (Also.. yay! No IU. Purdue > IU) I don't see any Missouri either though  , but hopefully they'll make the tourney to.. somehow. After all, it's 65 teams that make it, not just the top 25 and Conference winners.Believe it or not, I like this more than the NBA.. which I just checked up on last night. My Pacers suck balls this year. In Eastern Conference, New Jersey's the only team that's worse than them. (though two or three teams in the Western Conference are worse as well (Golden State, Minnesota, and maybe someone else.. I didn't really look at the standings much more than a minute.)) ------------- |
Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 1:55pm
You know you have an elite program when even though you are winning, it ain't good enough. 16-14 for many schools is total success. Schools like UNC are to college hoops what the Yankees are to baseball. Even if you don't like them, you have to admit the game itself is better when they win.
I liked Roy Williams even before he coached Kansas against SU in the championship game. His post-game interview made me like him even more. Stand-up guy. -------------
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Posted By: QwEsT
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2010 at 8:23pm
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Posted By: willisasmith
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2010 at 1:52am
Im biased on the conference im from oklahoma we all think big 12 is the best
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2010 at 5:55pm
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Well, it looks like the Big Tourney's brackets are set. My state's got three teams in it. (Butler, Purdue, and Notre Dame, but surprisingly, no IU.) I see Missouri to. I heard there's talk that the selection committee sucked this year though. Do you agree or not? http://%20rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/bracket;_ylt=AtLH4TaXBU9G7iy.wnTEGqgOvbYF - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/bracket;_ylt=AtLH4TaXBU9G7iy.wnTEGqgOvbYF - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/bracket;_ylt=AtLH4TaXBU9G7iy.wnTEGqgOvbYF The Brackets http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Do-s-and-Don-ts-for-filling-out-your-NCAA-bracke?urn=ncaab,227883 - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Do-s-and-Don-ts-for-filling-out-your-NCAA-bracke?urn=ncaab,227883 Do-s and don't-s of bracket making, just so you know/ for some interesting Big Tourney facts. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Don-t-fall-for-em-The-five-most-overrated-team?urn=ncaab,228073 - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Don-t-fall-for-em-The-five-most-overrated-team?urn=ncaab,228073 and.. the top 5 overrated teams. Do you agree with the picks? Sorry, I'm just a big fan of the big tourney. Anyhow.. Go Butler! Go Purdue! Go Notre Dame! Go Missouri! I'm well aware Purdue and Notre Dame might be going out early though. ------------- |
Posted By: willisasmith
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2010 at 1:07am
| all i know is that my bracket is screwed already freakin georgetown |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2010 at 1:43am
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Big East is a joke, bunch of mediocre teams all playing each other in close games. Come Tourney time they aint $hit.
My brackets are still solid all my first round losses Gtown, Marquette, and UNLV i had losing in
round 2 anyway.
I picked Nova to get to the F4, but based on their performance vs Robert Morris I doubt they get past Baylor, much less the sweet sixteen.
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2010 at 4:13am
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I love how Butler was picked as a likely upset and they stomped (well.. won by 18 points) over UTEP. I knew Butler wasn't going to be one of the 5 seeds to fall. I hope they beat Murray State as well and make it to the Sweet 16.. no.. Elite Eight. Mid-Major powerhouse Indiana College ftw! Seriously, Butler's been most of the last few tourneys, when IU, Purdue, and Notre Dame are in and out in recent years.
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Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2010 at 3:40pm
I couldn't disagree more. The Big East is far and away the best hoops conference. Look at their out of conference schedules and you will see that they didn't play a bunch of cupcakes like most conferences do. Who's good in the Big 10? Ohio State has argueably the best player in the country. Beyond that, who have they got? Beyond Purdue, Ohio State and Michigan State, the conference is full of also-rans. The Big East has 9 teams that won 20 or more games. The Big 10 has 4. The only team in the Big 10 that is always relavent in hoops is Michigan State. The rest of them have large breaks from title contention. It isn't even close. -------------
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 1:32pm
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Cokken youre comments just dont jive with the performance of the Big Eat in THE FIRST ROUND!!
so far Marquette, G-Towm, Notre Dame, and Louisville are out!! in THE FIRST ROUND!!
and how about how badly Villanova struggled against basket ball power house Robert Mogris?!
I dont even know where Robert Morris is.
In your analysis of the Big Ten you convniently neglected WISCONSIN whose defeated such out of conference cupcakes as DUKE and the big east's own Marquette.
Im not saying the BIG TEN is the greatest conference, they are not. They dont have the raw talent
other schools easily get, they rely more on coaching, teamwork, and stifling D. Also not a single Big Ten team lost in the first round. How does compare to the Big East ? hmm.
Im sorry but the Big 12 is the top conferece and as I type this Villanova is struggling vs. St mary's.
Unfortunately I took NOVA to the final 4, but they will be crushed by Baylor (if they get past St. Marys)
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Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 2:11pm
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You are analyzing the quality of an entire conference based on the performance of 4 teams in ONE game. That's like saying the Patriots are a sh1t football team because the Giants beat them in the Super Bowl. Without even looking, I can tell you that the Big East has more Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final Four and Finals bids than The big 10. I would bet they have more NCAA championships as well. I'm not saying the Big 10 doesn't have some nice teams, I'm just saying they aren't as good as the Big East. Basing analysis on one round of games or even one tournament is just convenient. The ACC had a bad year, but I'm not saying they are a sh1t conference. Big East > big 10. -------------
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 3:35pm
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lol, I think i Said twice already that the Big Ten is NOT the best conference.
There has to be some yardstick for success, I dont know what better yardstick to use than tourney results, and since the Big East has performed so miserably in the Early rounds my conclusion is that THIS YEAR they are an over rated conference.
If the big east in aggregate is a such a powerhouse ... then why, in aggregate, are most out before the round of 32. not only that, but they mosty lost to a higher seed. (a 15, a 10, and two 11 seeds)
Now that Nova got embarrassed by saint marys, if im not mistaken, all thats left is syracuse and w virgnia. lets see how they do ( i have w virginia going to the elite 8)
The big East has been historically a great conference. This year, based on Tourney succes, OVER RATED!
I say that as some one who foolishly took Nova to the final 4 and has w. virginia going far based on the misperception of them being a strong conference.
I suppose next year they can just crown themselves the best and not participate in the tourney, because, well it just doesnt matter how you do in the tourny.
Ive said my piece but Big 12 > big East by a galactic mile
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 4:24pm
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Wow, just wow. I saw this coming after seeing them struggle against Robert Morris to. Villanova's already out. Honestly though, the Big Ten doesn't look much better. Wisconsin struggled against Wofford as well and I wouldn't be surprised if Cornell sends them home. Honestly, I don't know what is, but this year, the higher seeds seem much weaker than they usually are. Out of the 21 winning higher seeds, only 12 seem to have had a solid (10+) win. One of which is out, while another (my Butler) is struggling, but they're also a mid-major. ------------- |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 5:09pm
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Im VERY IMPRESSED w Butler, I was impressed by them in the reuglar season, and the way they played against a MASSIVE UTEP team was even more impressive, especially Matt Howard in the middle.
Butler will beat Syracuse in the sweet 16.
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 5:38pm
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I don't know if Syracuse will even make it. Gonzaga's looking pretty good too. I wonder who's going to be the first 1 seed to fall, because this isn't last year's tourney. Somebody's bound to lose real soon. We already have one 2 seed out. Let's see a 1 get knocked off. Who do you think is the most vulnerable one? I can't believe how that ended though. I really thought it was going into OT for a moment, but Butler made them double back, which was the first part of Murray State's undoing. The deflected pass, shot, or whatever it was sealed the deal.
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 6:06pm
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Duke and Syracuse are definetly vulnerable.
Depending on how serious the injury to Onoaku is, Syracuse will get a helluva challenge from Butler if they pass Gonzaga, which I think they will.
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 6:23pm
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I don't think it means much, since it's the first half, but Kansas seems to be having a bit of trouble with Northern Iowa atm. Also, Washington and New Mexico are all tied up, while Baylor's not having too much trouble atm, but I'm watching the scoreboards right now, not that actually game, so you never know.
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 8:15pm
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I just checked up on things again and.. I was right about Kansas. They're out. The final score was 69-67 or something like that. New Mexico's hopes aren't looking much better, but they still had about a minute when I last checked, down by at least 10 or so points. Baylor won. I guess my first half predictions were right. Also, that's three upsets for today, out of 8 games. Edit: Any chance we'll have four upsets tonight and have yet another first night where half of the higher seeds go home? Kansas St. vs BYU Kentucky vs Wake Forest. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recap;_ylt=Ajk_W15.gAvWGvTbgXpiCfg5nYcB?gid=201003200287 - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recap;_ylt=Ajk_W15.gAvWGvTbgXpiCfg5nYcB?gid=201003200287 Edit: DAMNiT, the title's not what it was on the headliner, but yes.. "Shock and Awe" baby. Shock and awe. ------------- |
Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 9:13pm
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Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 9:16pm
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 9:19pm
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Yeah, and that's not Kansas in the Sweet 16, now is it? However, I'm glad that Missouri won the first round and I hope they make the Sweet 16 as well, but I have my doubts. Missouri seems more like a Football college than Basketball, but we'll see.
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Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 10:13pm
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I am really shocked by Kansas losing. I don't know a whole lot about them, but looking at the box score, they don't look very deep on the bench. Only 8 players hit the floor. -------------
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Posted By: Do_Or_Die_420
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2010 at 11:02pm
I hear that...Every team is bound too have an off year & this one was UNC's i guess...It's been an exciting first couple rounds of the tourney so far! Some GREAT games on the opening day of it...I'm happy too hear Kansas & Villanova got knocked out...Since my beloved Tarheels arent in this tourney i picked the youth of the Kentucky Wildcats too cut down the nets. ------------- |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2010 at 1:39am
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WOW! this is one of the best tourneys Ive ever watchesd ... my bracket is totally busted with kansas out ... Poor free throw shooting and pi$$ poor offensive glass work!
Big ups to my persian brother ali farrokhmanesh! what a clutch 3!
Cokk i have to slightly eat my words, this tourney is so unbelievably unpredictable
But i still stand by my assessment of the big east simply because going into the tourney thy were so hyped and they did not deliver!
as far as I see it ...its duke and kentuckys to lose ... kentucky is young and Duke has momentum
I hate DUKE so ill be pulling for the badgers to upset kentucky. anything can happen in this tourney!!
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2010 at 11:36am
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-timdahlberg-032010&prov=ap&type=lgns - http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-timdahlberg-032010&prov=ap&type=lgns All I have to say about this is "what the hell." ------------- |
Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 9:09pm
You predicted it right. 63-59, Butler's going to the Elite Eight. Syracuse is the second #1 seed to fall.
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Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 11:16pm
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Syracuse once again has torn my heart out. Not completely though, as I am used to seeing this happen with them. Boeheim is a great coach, but he never has disciplined teams. One of two things seems to always catch up with 'Cuse, poor shot selection or turnovers. Tonight it was both and Butler used it to nail their coffin shut. Good job Butler, you earned that win.
BTW, is anyone else as impressed with Butler's coach as I am? He had the stones to put 4 guards out there against Syracuse and it totally paid off. They had Rautins rattled throughout the game. You will see Butler's coach mentioned for the next big opening. AND, he's only 33. Props to Butler. Well coached, good gameplan and they played with heart. -------------
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Posted By: Do_Or_Die_420
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 4:01am
I'm impressed with Butler overall...I was thinkin before this game started that Butler should put 3 or 4 gaurds in the game against Syracuse since they lost their big man too an injury..They attacked the zone very well with spacing, passin & the ability too knock down shots..It's been a great tourney so far! ------------- |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 9:56am
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I was impressed w Butler all season. Sure theyre a mid major, but when you go undefeated in ANY conference thats pretty damn impressive.
they also dismantlled UTEP in the second half in the first round, a team that out sized the meaningfully.
I picked them to beat Syracuse but I doubt they get past k-state
What do you guys think of Tennessee vs Ohio St. I picked Tennessee (they beat Kentucky)
but Im not feeling good about that pick.
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 12:42am
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Damn it! Purdue lost, so there's two #1's in the Elite Eight and surely, Final Four. Then again, West Virginia and Baylor are not teams to underestimate, so maybe my dream of seeing another #1less Final Four is still possible, even if my two Indiana teams one is not. I hope Butler at least beats Kansas State, though I'm uncertain after that. I was hoping that Ohio State would win because.. well.. look at Butler's past games.. Who did they beat earlier in the season? Ohio State. Maybe, history could of repeated itself and Butler could of made it to the title game, though I still would of had my doubts. Honestly though, I'm just glad Butler made an Elite Eight. They deserve it, but they deserve a Final Four more. I don't know if it's just me, but I have a feeling that Butler's been more consistent in the past years than their fellow Indiana teams. Shouldn't they get something the other, bigger Indiana schools have at least one of? (Well, I'm sure Purdue's made the Final Four before, as has Notre Dame and IU's won National Championships in the past.) Hell, even ISU made a title game/ final four years ago. (80's) I found about it when I looked up the past winners, losers, and final four teams. Edit: It was in 1979 and it was actually against Michigan State, not Ohio State like I thought, but yeah.. they even made it to the title game and lost. ------------- |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 2:34am
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I need Kentcuky to lose and I win my goddam pool, I don't care when, or how.
Just lose dammit
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Posted By: Do_Or_Die_420
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:22am
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Aslong as Duke doesnt win it all i'm a happy camper! ------------- |
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Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 7:23am
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:50pm
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HOLY ****!! We're in the Final Four! I didn't catch most of that game, but the ending was insane. I don't know how many times I held my breath, thinking they're going to tie, they're going to take the lead. (I'm referring to Kansas State btw..) I guess should of kept on believing even when Kansas State took the lead, then re-tied it when Butler took the lead back. Kansas did get kind of sloppy at the end, but I can't blame them. They just survived Xavier in Double OT. Honestly, if Butler had faced them a few days later, things might of been different.
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 1:19pm
I spoke too soon. W virginia winning put this girl who picked them to win the tourney on my heels.
Now I need Baylor to win it all to keep my lead.
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2010 at 4:04pm
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Yeah, I'm hoping for Baylor and Michigan State to win. I don't necessarily think they'll make the National Championship, but I'm definitely pulling for Butler in Final Four. Even if they don't, I'm sure their next game is going to be good as well. Also, I haven't checked the article recently, but I love how the K-State fans (from what I seen) didn't sound all butthurt, unlike several of the Syracuse fans. One said that they're boring and hoped that they got smashed in the next game, whoever played them. I don't know about every other Butler game, but the conclusion of the K-State/ Butler game was awesome. The fact that Butler didn't crack when K-State brought the pressure shows that they're not just lucky. ------------- |
Posted By: willisasmith
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 12:37am
| my blue devils are still alive |
Posted By: Do_Or_Die_420
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 2:25am
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Posted By: QwEsT
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 10:03am
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 12:44pm
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I'm hoping that at least West Virginia wins it all. I'd rather see them win than Duke, if Butler can't. Then again, I'm not totally against Michigan State either. Honestly, I want Butler to win it, but pretty much anyone who isn't named Duke is okay in my book.
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Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 3:15pm
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Posted By: willisasmith
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2010 at 6:44am
| screw u all lol going against my dukies how dare you i have to be like the only duke fan in oklahoma |
Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 12:38am
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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 12:57am
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Ugh.. if only one of those two final misses made it. If the first did, then Duke would of had 3.6 seconds to do something, if the latter somehow hit, it would of been an epic ending to a great game. Damn.. I really thought Duke was going to get away when they got that six point and later five point lead, but Butler didn't let them steam roll them like most mid-major teams. I sure hope they're reconsidering the 96-team field idea after this tourney. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/tournament/2010/news/story?id=5047800 - http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/tournament/2010/news/story?id=5047800 http://www.azcentral.com/sports/colleges/articles/2010/04/02/20100402ncaa-tournament-96-teams-expansion.html - http://www.azcentral.com/sports/colleges/articles/2010/04/02/20100402ncaa-tournament-96-teams-expansion.html ------------- |