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Topic: Syzygy, me and yang were wondering..
Posted By: Fatal1st
Subject: Syzygy, me and yang were wondering..
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 3:42pm
are you really 50?!!
 
just out of interest :)
 
EDIT : *read in reverse mikey*
 
-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : yingyangin
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:30pm

Let me get this straight , Me being almost 25 is working on a development worth just over 9 million dollars, and I drive a range rover , and can afford a new ps3 game. Where he is like 50, argues with teenagers, compliments women online to get there attention and still to this day can only play a ten dollar game for the PS3.....excuse me.......
 
hahahahahahahaha
ahahahahhahahahah
ahahhahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahah
ahahhahahahahahahhaha
ahahahahhahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahah 50?! haha
ahhahahahahahhahaahha


-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : Fatal1st
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:27pm


i think so, he sounded like it when i was in a vctf game with him the other week.. sound very "yokle" or whatever you americans call it, lol

-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : yingyangin
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:26pm


is that guy like 50?

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Sent by : Fatal1st
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:25pm


oh let them b**** at each other, besides if peoply cant reply it will jsut go off the bottom of the page! just hope it doesnt end up another tuna/syzgy trash talking thread, those are so borinngg!

-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : yingyangin
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:24pm


I dunno, i took off the ability to reply so people cant b**** at each other so no one will vote now prolly

-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : Fatal1st
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:16pm


LMFAO!!! xD im so gonna win this shizz, rico eat your heart out LOL

-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : yingyangin
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:11pm

oh my gosh! i fixed it ;)


-- Previous Private Message --
Sent by : Fatal1st
Sent : 01 Aug 2010 at 3:09pm

you really put mikey in that poll? xD


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Posted By: YINYANG
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 3:44pm
LMAO you did the pm's in reverse HAHAHAHAHA

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Posted By: InHuMaNe_KiLLa
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 3:44pm
LOL funny PMs

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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by yingyangin

LMAO you did the pm's in reverse HAHAHAHAHA
 
hey i copied n pasted! i know this is iamgaming, but surely people have the intellect to read them in reverse...
 
actually this IS iamgaming :/


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:14pm
Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.

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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.


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Posted By: YINYANG
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
na i just like to be an asshole on here, in real life im pretty nice actually =), but your not gonna believe me without meeting me in real life so i dunno how to convince you LOL


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.


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Posted By: YINYANG
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:25pm
Yoniiiiiiiiiiiiiii Yoniiiishikaaaaaaa, You like JP Japanese man , Yoniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by yingyangin

Yoniiiiiiiiiiiiiii Yoniiiishikaaaaaaa, You like JP Japanese man , Yoniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Haha, that was fun.  I had ya'll fooled.   Kinda  ;)


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 


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Posted By: YINYANG
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:28pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by yingyangin

Yoniiiiiiiiiiiiiii Yoniiiishikaaaaaaa, You like JP Japanese man , Yoniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Haha, that was fun.  I had ya'll fooled.   Kinda  ;)
 
Sense of humour = Class muhahahaha , if you like we could sensor my pm to say, i have a job a life and a car to get from point A to point B LOLOLOLOLOL


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?


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Posted By: YINYANG
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?
 
actually he was talking about me lucifer, dont worry me and lunchy get along, he just understands that im an asshole on this site ;)


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?
 
it was clearly implied in your post.


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by yingyangin

 
actually he was talking about me lucifer, dont worry me and lunchy get along, he just understands that im an asshole on this site ;)
 
yeah he was at first but later he aimed it at me, i think, lol...


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?
 
it was clearly implied in your post.
Well, I apologize if you misunderstood my post!  ;)


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Posted By: puertoRICAN
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:39pm
no, fu*k that, argue, and argue RIGHT NOW!
D:<


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by yingyangin

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?
 
actually he was talking about me lucifer, dont worry me and lunchy get along, he just understands that im an asshole on this site ;)
What he said.


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?
 
it was clearly implied in your post.
Well, I apologize if you misunderstood my post!
 
nothing to apologise for.. i just doubt that if you has a choice of $1million dollars or "class" that you would choose "class".. unless you mean "class" in the sense of integrity..


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by yingyangin

 
actually he was talking about me lucifer, dont worry me and lunchy get along, he just understands that im an asshole on this site ;)
 
yeah he was at first but later he aimed it at me, i think, lol...
I can see how that might look like that, was not my intention.


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by puertoRICAN

no, fu*k that, argue, and argue RIGHT NOW!
D:<
 
STFU reekan before i come over, steal your lunch money and make myself a millionaire xD
 
if you want a fight ill give you one! lmao LOL


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?
 
it was clearly implied in your post.
Well, I apologize if you misunderstood my post!
 
nothing to apologise for.. i just doubt that if you has a choice of $1million dollars or "class" that you would choose "class".. unless you mean "class" in the sense of integrity..
I mean in the sense of, I have lots of money, I can buy more things than you; you haven't accomplished sh1t in your life, Im better than you.


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

I mean in the sense of, I have lots of money, I can buy more things than you; you haven't accomplished sh1t in your life, Im better than you.
 
i agree with that. wealth can never be a determination of a persons worth. i just understand "class" differently i guess..


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:47pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Good thing for us poor people is, YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS.  I'll take class over money anyday.
 
i'd prefer to take the money, "class" is subjective as hell.
Not to those who possess it.
 
enlighten me then... what is this "class" you  think you possess which i can't possibly comprehend? 
Where does it say in my post, that suggests that it was you who I was in reference to?
 
it was clearly implied in your post.
Well, I apologize if you misunderstood my post!
 
nothing to apologize for.. i just doubt that if you has a choice of $1million dollars or "class" that you would choose "class".. unless you mean "class" in the sense of integrity..
i wouldn't take the million if I couldn't keep any dignity.  Hell, I could become a bro right now and get an extremely hot g/f.  But my dignity would be lost.  You can have both, you can have either, but the former won't 'buy' you the latter.


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

i wouldn't take the million if I couldn't keep any dignity.  Hell, I could become a bro right now and get an extremely hot g/f.  But my dignity would be lost.  You can have both, you can have either, but the latter won't 'buy' you the former.
 
true.. but which is the most desirable? you can always re-gain dignity but you might never have the chance to be rich like that again. i guess i'd take the money, as i've always lived my life on the principle that i'd rather regret doing something rather than regret NOT doing something.
 
depends how much dignity i had to lose though, even i have limits.


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

i wouldn't take the million if I couldn't keep any dignity.  Hell, I could become a bro right now and get an extremely hot g/f.  But my dignity would be lost.  You can have both, you can have either, but the latter won't 'buy' you the former.
 
true.. but which is the most desirable? you can always re-gain dignity but you might never have the chance to be rich like that again. i guess i'd take the money, as i've always lived my life on the principle that i'd rather regret doing something rather than regret NOT doing something.
 
depends how much dignity i had to lose though, even i have limits.


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Posted By: YINYANG
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

I mean in the sense of, I have lots of money, I can buy more things than you; you haven't accomplished sh1t in your life, Im better than you.
 
i agree with that. wealth can never be a determination of a persons worth. i just understand "class" differently i guess..
 
f u c k that im awesome LOL ;)


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 4:57pm
Originally posted by yingyangin

Originally posted by Fatal1st

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

I mean in the sense of, I have lots of money, I can buy more things than you; you haven't accomplished sh1t in your life, Im better than you.
 
i agree with that. wealth can never be a determination of a persons worth. i just understand "class" differently i guess..
 
f u c k that im awesome LOL ;)
Haha

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Posted By: Paw
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 6:11pm
Your right Tuna/Syzygy flame battles are sooo boring, gotta add some paw to spice it up a bit ;)

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Posted By: TuNA FISh
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 8:04pm
 i remember reading PLENTY of trash talk threads involving you luci and you too paw. those were always boring.. i don't even start the **** talk 99% of the time so don't associate me with syzygy like that again please


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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 10:31pm
what exactly were you wondering? be specific so i know for sure.

as far your refference to females goes, the only female ive ever talked to online is Curlup. and that was in 360 party's.

what females do i ever compliment? lol i respect females but saying i want there attention is totally fn retarded!!!

and what you call arguing isn't accualy arguing to me. ive said so many times that i just fk with some people a little on here for sh1ts and giggles. its no big deal!

my age doesn't pertain. unless you have a problem with getting your little azz kicked at ut3 by Pap Paw lol







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Posted By: BuMrUsH
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 11:30pm
Every flame battle on this site has been dumb and boring.

The best ones that I actually got into, laughed, and wanted to see more was on the Epic Forums. I miss those.

It was before most of the people in threads. Like syg and tuna. Even some others

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Posted By: Sephiroth_V7
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 11:46pm
i love how every thread on this site has nothing to do with the topic... went from someones age to what the difference between class and wealth is lol and thats when it gets boring

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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 11:49pm
Bum just stfu before i bi1tch smack your azz all the way back to the stone age!!! oO hahaha

ce amigo its easy but it don't mean nuttin   just sh1ts and giggles and nothing more

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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 7:44am
Originally posted by Sephiroth_v7

i love how every thread on this site has nothing to do with the topic... went from someones age to what the difference between class and wealth is lol and thats when it gets boring
This thread was flame bait to start with, so it didn't bother me one bit to hijack it.  ;)


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Posted By: TuNA FISh
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 8:21am
Originally posted by BuMrUsH

Every flame battle on this site has been dumb and boring.

The best ones that I actually got into, laughed, and wanted to see more was on the Epic Forums. I miss those.

It was before most of the people in threads. Like syg and tuna. Even some others

you're flame wars are soooooo boring.. you always talk about how good you are


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Posted By: BuMrUsH
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 12:20pm
Didnt i just say EVERY FLAME BATTLE WAS BORING..THE BEST ONES WAS ONE EPIC FORUMS..WAY BEFORE YOU EVEN THOUGHT OF UT3...lol dUMBO.

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Posted By: Sephiroth_V7
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Originally posted by Sephiroth_v7

i love how every thread on this site has nothing to do with the topic... went from someones age to what the difference between class and wealth is lol and thats when it gets boring
This thread was flame bait to start with, so it didn't bother me one bit to hijack it.  ;)
 
Theres some truth in there i guess. This one didn't bother be since it didn't have potential anyways, but was lookin at others and thinking the same before i came to this one. So decided to post my opinion on crimes of iamgaming here, haha. And its not that i care, don't get me wrong, just thought it was kinda funny how we dont know what topic we want to talk about untill page two of a thread.


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 1:30pm
well its was obvious this thread was made soley for flame bait because i was bored.. and agreed it was a snooze fast, ah well! lol
 
as far as flame battles go my vote goes to deadaim v val with lunchy the cheerleader xD


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Posted By: Sephiroth_V7
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 1:46pm
^^ Agreed altho i like lunchy, the cheerleader comment and the fist pumping comment was pretty much amazing lol

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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 1:50pm
aww, you're like lunchy's fan club! but the fist pump was pretty epic i agree..
 
ooh and you and jibba have had some funny run in's on here too! lol


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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

well its was obvious this thread was made soley for flame bait because i was bored.. and agreed it was a snooze fast, ah well! lol
 
as far as flame battles go my vote goes to deadaim v val with lunchy the cheerleader xD


im going to create a women who stalk much older men thread if you make another SIZZLE thread _-)

now tell that didn't make you laugh out loud

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Posted By: Sephiroth_V7
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 1:57pm
Originally posted by Fatal1st

aww, you're like lunchy's fan club! but the fist pump was pretty epic i agree..
 
ooh and you and jibba have had some funny run in's on here too! lol
 
Lol Dudes funny what can i say. And yeah i've been in a few battles also so i guess i cant say much, the kid sets himself up for it tho. Dont think i've lost one yet lol JK


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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Originally posted by Fatal1st

well its was obvious this thread was made soley for flame bait because i was bored.. and agreed it was a snooze fast, ah well! lol
 
as far as flame battles go my vote goes to deadaim v val with lunchy the cheerleader xD


im going to create a women who stalk much older men thread if you make another SIZZLE thread _-)

now tell that didn't make you laugh out loud
 
aww, now i want to make another thread.. LOL


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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 2:18pm
^^^ stalker xD

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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 2:20pm
^^ dreamer

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Posted By: TuNA FISh
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 4:03pm
Originally posted by BuMrUsH

Didnt i just say EVERY FLAME BATTLE WAS BORING..THE BEST ONES WAS ONE EPIC FORUMS..WAY BEFORE YOU EVEN THOUGHT OF UT3...lol dUMBO.

hey i was probably thinking about ut3 before you XD!i remember when they first announced it at e3 and there was a rumor of cross platform gaming. that would have been fun

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Posted By: oXxLunacyxXo
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 5:49pm
Amusing not quit funny i could see luci and yang beating up old man and beaten him with the walker or cane after he was down that image is funny

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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 11:35am
^^^ puts old people in his basement and denies them there depends

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Posted By: Fatal1st
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 2:41pm
^^ puts in my basement! D:

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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by Paw

Your right Tuna/Syzygy flame battles are sooo boring, gotta add some paw to spice it up a bit ;)
yeah i agree me and you trashing each other beats every **** i read on here anyday

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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2010 at 2:08am
saying i love you man at the end is not really flaming Crow xD

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Posted By: SIZZLE
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2010 at 12:01pm
i can tell Yang smokes C.O.C.K! dude is a totally GAY alchoholic! Range Rover my azz! when you really got money you don't need to BRAG about it son! dude witshes he was double jointed so he could BLOW himself!

mommy's Range Rover im guessing?

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