PlayStation 4 aka Orbis Leaked
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Topic: PlayStation 4 aka Orbis Leaked
Posted By: ColossusSlayer
Subject: PlayStation 4 aka Orbis Leaked
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 5:51am
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So looks like we are all gonna need new Tv's as well lol
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Posted By: TuNA FISh
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 6:30pm
Haven't watched the vid yet but I know Sony released a statement saying they refuse to Comment on rumors regarding the ps4
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:37pm
"can NOT play USED games"??? wtf is that ****????
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by XxXDEATHXxX101
"can NOT play USED games"??? wtf is that ****???? | it's called the future. get used to it because truth be told neither Sony or MS give a rat's ass about gamers.
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 1:02pm
so does that mean that they will not used cd/dvd blu-ray games anymore? cause what happens when you buy a game and are done with it? you cant resell it and no one else can use it so your supposed to pay $60 bucks to play any games and then throw them in the garbage if you dont like them or are done playing them? f***n retarded as always
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 1:29pm
this was rumored for Ps3 as well. I doubt it will go through. It will encourage Piracy and thats worse than resale for the publishers
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 2:52pm
watch the second video. he speculates on what will happen. but games aren't going to cost $60 with the PS4. maybe $75? anyways, everything will go the way of the micro-transaction. that's where you pay $0 to $20 for a basic version of the game (think DCUO or DUST514) and then pay extra for full functionality. for example you're still able to level most of the way up in DCUO but it takes longer without buying any extras.
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Posted By: Phenethylamine
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 4:12pm
It's all BS just to get people talking about Next-Gen.
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 4:30pm
my money says the used game block wont happen: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-03-29-playstation-orbis-sony-dont-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot" rel="nofollow - http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-03-29-playstation-orbis-sony-dont-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 7:13pm
we'll all be playing games from the cloud soon anyways. won't be any used games then.
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Posted By: ThAtSmAtT
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 8:45pm
seriously... if that idea of not being able to play used games gets implemented... that'll be the death of thje playstation tbh lol... would be the biggest bull**** ever lol
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 12:50am
Originally posted by ThAtSmAtT
seriously... if that idea of not being able to play used games gets implemented... that'll be the death of thje playstation tbh lol... would be the biggest bull**** ever lol | that will put gamestop outta biz right fast, and i know about 90% of the game commune will rage if they cant resell or buy used games,,, i for 1 have only paid full price on about 3 games ever, hell i even got around 23,000 micro soft points through gettin em from dhgate hacked for penny's on the 1$. i cant justify paying $60 today for a game that will sell used for less than half a couple months down the line, let alone any game worth full price in the first place.
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Posted By: ColossusSlayer
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 6:54am
Added a new video to my original post.
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Posted By: ColossusSlayer
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 6:15am
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Posted By: summ3rblink
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 8:03am
Well that could get more ridiculous only, when new games couldn't be played with a used PS4 
I mean THAT would make Sony even more munny! For every new game purchase a new console!
And of course, the controller you used to play Elder Scrolls VI - Spacerim, wouldn't be good anymore for playing UT4 so go on and get a new one!
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Posted By: Darkn3ss
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 8:25am
Originally posted by summ3rblink
Well that could get more ridiculous only, when new games couldn't be played with a used PS4 
I mean THAT would make Sony even more munny! For every new game purchase a new console!
And of course, the controller you used to play Elder Scrolls VI - Spacerim, wouldn't be good anymore for playing UT4 so go on and get a new one! |
PS4 = PS3?
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 10:11am
more info about the bleak future: http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/hello-brave-world-console-gaming-003839870.html" rel="nofollow - http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/hello-brave-world-console-gaming-003839870.html
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Posted By: JPINATOR
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 7:10pm
Pfffft It's all rumors.. won't believe it till I see it.
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by JPINATOR
Pfffft It's all rumors.. won't believe it till I see it.
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I agree.
Gamestop is projected to do $5.5billion in new game and hardware revenue and only$ 850 mill in used.
it doesn't make sense to kill game stop. And piss off all your customers in the process.
the cable companies are going to meter broadband like the wireless carriers so digital download would be that much tougher.
it would be a disastrous decision by Sony and Microsoft.
they're dumb but not that dumb
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Posted By: FehtalaTee
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 11:26pm
hey my friend across the street said the ps5 is coming out a week after or before the ps4 but its just rumors though.
but 4real i hope ut4 is one of the 1st games that comes out when the ps4 drops because im tried of waiting -_-
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Posted By: summ3rblink
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 2:13am
Originally posted by Darkn3ss
Originally posted by summ3rblink
Well that could get more ridiculous only, when new games couldn't be played with a used PS4 
I mean THAT would make Sony even more munny! For every new game purchase a new console!
And of course, the controller you used to play Elder Scrolls VI - Spacerim, wouldn't be good anymore for playing UT4 so go on and get a new one! |
PS4 = PS3? |
Nope, I meant PS4: that if you played some game with your PS4 and wanted to buy another game, you should buy always new console for new game - according to weird Sony_moneymaking_logic 
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Posted By: Heavenly_tRiNiTy
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 9:00am
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington
Originally posted by JPINATOR
Pfffft It's all rumors.. won't believe it till I see it.
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I agree.
Gamestop is projected to do $5.5billion in new game and hardware revenue and only$ 850 mill in used.
it doesn't make sense to kill game stop. And piss off all your customers in the process.
the cable companies are going to meter broadband like the wireless carriers so digital download would be that much tougher.
it would be a disastrous decision by Sony and Microsoft.
they're dumb but not that dumb
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I think Pengiun called it right, its a cheap direct marketing ploy by Sony Corp now theyre up and running with Vita. Believe it when u see it is my take too! I cant see a cloud based console delivering HD content of this magnitude (x4 or 4k) streaming from a cloud unless were all on a lag free 100 mbit/sec connections by next year. And the developers have games designed for the next gen console (no ones mentioned them in the equation - UT engine, Cry etc). What I do expect is them to make us more reliant on their services so pushing PS+ as essential/advantageous for PS4 and making it compatiable with Vita (so e.g. u get a play anywhere license for the game you pay for with PS+). Sony have a history of anti-piracy initiatives (read dependency on Sony corp products here) and with the PS3 saga fresh in mind imo theyll go hard with security features and we'll b jumping through verification authentication and confirmation systems. The single account single redemption code is to me just another way of saying if u want to play the same version of your game on adifferent m/c then you'll have to pay for it. However they sell it its the same thing. Whatever they do theyll take gaming to the next level 3D, ubiquitous connectivity, controller free (virtual inputs, gestures etc) but we will pay for it thats a given.
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Posted By: Heavenly_tRiNiTy
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 9:14am
On a side note the developers - sellers relationship is intriguing. Sony pays developers for PS games so not all the cost is borne by the software houses. The developers ship the games to the outlets so theres a dependency on them in making a release successful. Im not sure how pre-owned games are treated I dont expect the retailers to give x amount back to the developers but there is a definite 'we don't need high street sellers/re-sellers' mentality from the games developers.
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Posted By: JPINATOR
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 9:52am
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington
Originally posted by JPINATOR
Pfffft It's all rumors.. won't believe it till I see it.
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the cable companies are going to meter broadband like the wireless carriers so digital download would be that much tougher |
Yeah, unfortunately this will be the bigger issue. I understand why they meter it, I don't agree with it but they need a better way to fix it. All homes connected with internet are connected on the same hub, which includes around 30 homes. If one guy on that block decides to download tons of movies, music and porn it slows down everyone elses internet.
Instead of metering it, they should make better hubs.
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:50am
Originally posted by JPINATOR
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington
Originally posted by JPINATOR
Pfffft It's all rumors.. won't believe it till I see it.
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the cable companies are going to meter broadband like the wireless carriers so digital download would be that much tougher
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Yeah, unfortunately this will be the bigger issue. I understand why they meter it, I don't agree with it but they need a better way to fix it. All homes connected with internet are connected on the same hub, which includes around 30 homes. If one guy on that block decides to download tons of movies, music and porn it slows down everyone elses internet.
Instead of metering it, they should make better hubs.
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thats all relivent to isp's output signal, if 1 home on a hub that connects 30 house downloads a bunch of crap it does not slow down everyone else's internet. thats all pending on the providers. you would have to be downloading like 10 devices with gb's of data to slow down a block of homes internet. its like people who think if they have a 25mb download and they have 5 devices using it that there internet download gets split up and now every device has 5mb's download each,, not true. thats also like saying you pay to share the internet with all your neighbors instead of you pay for your own download speed. comes back to quality of your type of isp and gear your using.
i agree that some isp's do slow down with high volume of traffic but those are normal ****ty providers otherwise there would only be 1 set speed that you can buy for download and everyone would have to share 1 set bandwidth between everyone in a city. my net will dish out the same 25mb download with 7 devices all streaming video, music, netflicks, gaming ect and not even flinch for a second or lag anyone out not matter what my neighbors do 
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Posted By: JPINATOR
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 11:59am
Then what's the point of metering it? If what you say is true, then it shouldn't matter how much you download, doesn't effect a thing then, so them mailing out those warning letters saying you are using too much bandwidth is just an excuse to keep lumber companies in business.
lol, I guess my cable company likes lying to me and many consumers about how they run things because that was the exact explanation of why they watch my internet bandwidth consumption. Which doesn't surprise me, just kinda odd, why would they lie about something like that?
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:10pm
i never recieved anything like that and me and the class mates are kinda having a laugh about it.
if you pay for 500 mins on your phone you get 500mins on your phone, if you pay for a 25 mb download speed from your isp,,,,,you pay to have 25 mb's streaming internet into your house. i litteraly use a minimum of 4 devices on the net browsing,streaming,wifi calling ect for most of the day everyday and.......no it does not matter how much i download, thats why i pay for the service i have. not sure who provides your net but its more than likely coming from the same place i get mine because comcast is about 7 miles from your house and thats where i have my net through
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:15pm
Metering is coming. cable companies have said so publicly.
They already tier pricing to some extent.
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:21pm
i seriously doubt you use half the bandwidth my house consumes in a month JP, so why would they care about your usage? internet bandwith is metered by your speed why would they have differnet speeds you can buy if you only can consume certain amounts of data? so you could buy a 100mb download speed but you can only use so much data a month with it? i guess if there are going to change there pricing over to paying like a phone service data plan then i get that but??
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Posted By: JPINATOR
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:30pm
Must have a target on my back or I pissed them off lol. My brother tried the 100mb internet when it first came out and he started receiving phone calls about his bandwidth usage, explain that to me, lol. I know he likes downloading free stuff but c'mon.. how much would he have to be downloading to throw up red flags. Big brother is involved with this, I swear.. lol
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:48pm
makes no sense to me, i have the same provider and i rip through data all day every day. that makes no sense that you can buy 100mb download but not use it, what would be the point of having it? sorry i dont buy that, i probably use close to 5 to 10gbs of data on average a day n ive never once heard anything from comcast about it nor would i expect to because i pay for a connection that provides me with a up to but "not limited" to 25 mb a second download speed a month which means i can download none stop all day every day.
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Posted By: JPINATOR
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 12:51pm
yeah, he got rid of it right as he started getting the phone calls.
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 1:02pm
AT & T has already done test runs with metering in a few cities. It's coming. It's already here with some cellphone carriers.
And ISPs, even the large ones, can't keep their infrastructures upgraded enough to handle all that we're using so they have to throttle bandwith. It's either that or a total shutdown
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by BAIN
AT & T has already done test runs with metering in a few cities. It's coming. It's already here with some cellphone carriers.
And ISPs, even the large ones, can't keep their infrastructures upgraded enough to handle all that we're using so they have to throttle bandwith. It's either that or a total shutdown |
you guys are talking about this as though it is a fossil fuel and limited resource. what you are saying bain is what they are saying to justify a change in price or the way they handle things (again to adjust price) AT&T and other cell companys already meter there data usage with the type plan you buy, 2gb, 4gb up to unlimited meaning after you use 2gbs on your phone then you are going to get charge for the addtional data used no different than going over you minutes on a plan as well. but as far as upgrading there infrastructures.....thats a daily event with all things in the world of IT n will never be "up to date" with the way things advance everyday, i call that job security for me and thats why im am going to be a networking engineer .......but as far as throttling bandwth?? just going to be another way to charge more but there is no shortage, just ****ty companys
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 2:52pm
you're acting like it's an infinite resource. it's not. go back and hit the books schoolboy.
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 3:07pm
Lol Bain.
Theoretically bandwidth is infinite but money is very finite. If you invest in a router or and add drop mux for more capacity And throuput you're gonna want return ... Higher prices!!
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington
Lol Bain. @ BAIN Theoretically bandwidth is infinite but money is very finite. If you invest in a router or and add drop mux for more capacity And throuput you're gonna want return ... Higher prices!! |
yeah im ok with the schooling i have bain, i have my MTA NETWORKING, MTA OS, MTA SERVER, SDP, MCTP 680, AND MCITP 685, WORKING ON MY "NETWORKING CONFIGURATION INFASTRUCTURE" CERTIFICATION NOW SO? pretty sure i have a good idea how the internet works by now. 
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 4:03pm
Originally posted by BAIN
you're acting like it's an infinite resource. it's not. go back and hit the books schoolboy. |
maybe you should google some stuff to validate an opinion "not fact". there is no limit on the amount of BANDWIDTH the world or anyone area has to use. thats not how it works. yeah your bandwidth might get limited if you have "sh1t" net from a sh1t company or sh1tty gear in your house. so when your internet is laggy you can just blame it on the neighbors using up all that precious limited resource n say "if he uses to much bandwidth there wont be enough for the rest of us, we need to rashin it out" lmao. , if you have a company that is on a T1 connection that uses a VPN they use things like "branch cache" to minimize there BANDWIDTH usage because when you have 200 pc's connected to a single T1 connection then YES you will see the net slow down due to BANDWIDTH usage, thats on a SINGLE T1 connection tho. and ppl think a T1 is a fast connection but keep in mind a T1 is a 1.5 download and 1.5 upload that sends a recieves at the same time. thats pretty much slower than your house line, it just has little to no interupt because its a 2way signal
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Posted By: Fluffy Fluffington
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 4:24pm
Yeah but cupcake if bandwidth is infinite ... which i will theoretically concede ....
BUT capital (money) is not ... you need to spend capital to expand bandwidth.
So In reality there IS a finite amount of bandwidth.
I'm a tech analyst and specialize in Telco equipment. Doin' it for 10 years. your knowledge is definitely more technical but: Service providers need to be able to get a return on their investment.
They cant just throw money and gear, and fiber to get it with out a return.
To get that return they need to raise prices on high bandwidth usage or meter it or both.
With that I'm done before it gets personal. Its a nice day out and I'm thirsty for Beer
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 5:14pm
ok look at it this way i pay for a service that gives me unlimited internet access for a set price,,, and the signal they send out to me is more than effective enough to sustain as much data transfer on it as i or anyone else needs, your talking about them adding need lines and expanding there networks reach and charging more for it...... that is something different completely.... my isp does NOT have a limited amount of BANDWIDTH and that has been the argueement. your saying it like we have to buy more as is in a "supply" like today our isp is running low on a "physical" resource. the only thing that limits my net is if the power goes off or i dont pay my bill and in all actuallity the speed for the net has gone up and the price is at a all time low. 
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 6:49pm
here is the limited resource you speak of BAIN, and there BANDWIDTH METERING THRESHOLD. lmao
How does Comcast define "excessive use"?
Comcast has set a data consumption threshold ("threshold") on monthly bandwidth consumption (including both upstream and downstream usage) by residential users of its high-speed Internet service ("XFINITY Internet"). Currently, that threshold allows a residential customer to send or receive up to 250 Gigabytes (GB) of data in a calendar month. This includes data in any form (including movies, photos, music, videos, e-mails, computer back-ups, or other types of files) that a customer uses his or her XFINITY Internet to send or receive over the public Internet, including data sent by one XFINITY Internet customer to another.
If an XFINITY Internet residential customer exceeds the 250 GB threshold in a month, we consider that to be "excessive use" for purposes of our Acceptable Use Policy [http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/HighSpeedInternetAUP.html]. For about 99 percent of our residential customers, the threshold presents no issue whatsoever, as the median monthly data usage by those customers is currently 8 to 10 GB, or about four percent of the threshold.
Am I at any risk of reaching the "excessive use" threshold?
It's unlikely given how most residential customers use the XFINITY Internet service. To put this usage in perspective, 250 GB is the equivalent of:
• sending 50 million plain text emails;
• downloading 62,500 songs (173 days worth of music);
• uploading more than 25,000 high-resolution photos; or
• streaming between about 100 to 800 hours of video (the range depends upon whether you're streaming studio-quality video or good-quality, standard-definition video, which have different bit rates depending upon the provider*).
* (By way of example, Netflix's website reports that it offers three video quality settings for consumers, which range from up to 0.3 GB per hour for "good quality" to up to 2.3 GB per hour for "best quality." For more details, http://blog.netflix.com/2011/03/netflix-lowers-data-usage-by-23-for.html" rel="nofollow - click here .
Over an entire year, a customer could:
- send more than half a billion plain text emails;,
- download nearly three quarters of a million songs;
- upload more than 300,000 high-resolution photos,;
- stream between 1,200 and 9,900 hours of movies and TV shows and do so without exceeding the threshold.
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 9:54am
you do realize that bandwith is data transfer rate not the amount of data transfer, don't you? with all of those acronyms by your name you may becoming a little confused.
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 4:45pm
Originally posted by BAIN
you do realize that bandwith is data transfer rate not the amount of data transfer, don't you? with all of those acronyms by your name you may becoming a little confused. |
wow, that is dumb.... no bain please edumacate me sum mo cause i no sure of the understanding of such complex thingymabobs....... you do realize that a "bandwidth" is spelt with a "D" in it as well?? and if a isp is sending a signal at a certain data tranfer rate how can you exceed it?? so im not sure if you had a point somewhere in there or if you are even on topic with what you where trying to talk about with no facts. i thought the arguement was about people over exceeding the "BANDWIDTH" use from a isp, so how does someone consume more than the signal being sent... there are cases where the signal runs what people in the cable instalation field call as "running hot" but im sure you know about all things IT as you have been making it seem.. i think you are lost in the whole conversation,,, how much schooling have you got about all things IT or do you just goodle things as you go? fyi those acronyms are microsoft certifications that i have by taking testes and actually working with computers and networking but guess you could teach me alot more
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Posted By: lDEATHl-MACHINE
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 4:48pm
the posting above yours is a detailed discription of EXACTLY what was being discussed so try to follow along or if you want to try to say smartass things to me bring a vaild point to the table.
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Posted By: JPINATOR
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 5:45pm
woah woah woah, take it easy guys.. no need to take it personal!
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Posted By: ColossusSlayer
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 6:20pm
im suprised penguin isnt in here trolling all of you for typing paragraphs coz I get trolled loads for it :D
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Posted By: Heavenly_tRiNiTy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 6:22pm
Dont worry JP it'll soon boil down to the 'whose d1ck's actually the biggest' or 'how much beer u can drink in one sesssion' - sigh!
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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 6:59pm
Originally posted by JPINATOR
woah woah woah, take it easy guys.. no need to take it personal!
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LOL! Just having a little fun with Kuppy. He's really a good guy when he's not raging.
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