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    Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 2:14am
Yea, is great to see more people, but maybe will help if the  DM server allow less player, i say:
Server settings and rules:
Playeres: up to 8
Frags: 30
Maps: Standards (well maybe  one or two custom maps :p)
That will be great :P becouse the server is more controlled and the server deathmatch will not end at the 3 minutes well, maybe 5 :p is just my opinion chears
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Nice to see a lot of familiar names. I've played deathmatches with a lot of you. Good games last night, AK 47.

In any case, I played one duel and it was really boring. I won't be playing those much. It was at Shangri La but I don't see it becoming any more fun on smaller maps.
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Don't give up on duel it really is addicting and great fun once you get the hang of it....and to get the hang of it you have to play it and lose a lot...But after a while you'll notice you are getting more kills than you used to...and even starting to beat some people.

It's funny reading some of the comments in here about belt camping and wanting to play with no belt because that's exactly the same thing I used to say before I played duel a lot.  It really is necessary to play with the belt...if you didn't then it becomes all about the body armor...if you take that out then it's all about vials/thigh pads/helmet...it would just change the object of focus...nothing more.
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Originally posted by WOPR-1

Don't give up on duel it really is addicting and great fun once you get the hang of it....and to get the hang of it you have to play it and lose a lot...But after a while you'll notice you are getting more kills than you used to...and even starting to beat some people.

It's funny reading some of the comments in here about belt camping and wanting to play with no belt because that's exactly the same thing I used to say before I played duel a lot.  It really is necessary to play with the belt...if you didn't then it becomes all about the body armor...if you take that out then it's all about vials/thigh pads/helmet...it would just change the object of focus...nothing more.
to a certain point ur correct but if you take out the armor its going to be just as boring as instagib dueling players are either going to camp or running  aimlessly around the maps lookin for each other i recently played a instagib duel on sentinel and it was the most boring thing ive ever played...dude kept camping in different corners while i stood out in the open tryin to finish it fast
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Originally posted by WOPR-1

Don't give up on duel it really is addicting and great fun once you get the hang of it....and to get the hang of it you have to play it and lose a lot...But after a while you'll notice you are getting more kills than you used to...and even starting to beat some people.

It's funny reading some of the comments in here about belt camping and wanting to play with no belt because that's exactly the same thing I used to say before I played duel a lot.  It really is necessary to play with the belt...if you didn't then it becomes all about the body armor...if you take that out then it's all about vials/thigh pads/helmet...it would just change the object of focus...nothing more.
 
Yo WOPR! I was so looking forward to finishing that duel lst night, I actually got 2 (extremely Lucky frags) then got kicked off. Came back on immediately on Shangri_la and waited for you.
 
One of my Frags was so Cheesy, I knocked you off the MAP LOL!
Im sure u would have kicked my a**
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I'm glad to see a new player getting the ropes down. I so remember when I got this game, started playing and that was my goal to win my first DM, after that it justs gets better from there.

I believe what you are hearing about the duel mode is correct in ways that some have said it. That mode can be extremely hard, I personally say before u hit dueling stay in DM and TDM, win more games, become a better fragger then you are now to the point your confident.

Then hit the duel rooms. I honestly played this game about 8 months before I hit the duel room and my fragging abilities were there, just not the playing style u have to learn by just dueling. If you start dueling with to much to learn still then you'll probably just give up, the duel mode aint going anywhere. Take your time until your confident to go in there.

Even play offline in duels every now and then on duel maps that is and try beating the bots and keep raising the difficulty. Yeah they r bots but they still help and u dnt get so down on yourself when a bot kicks your a**. Your still playing a better player so you will continue to get better.

I use to have trouble with godlike bots after I started learing how to duel, nowadays its cake tho. To be able to beat a great your gonna have to manhandle the best bots in the game. For example later sometime go in ur fav map as a duel map like Deck, play a godlike bot and see how u fair out, after the outcome you'll see that us greats can beat these bots down which will show u just what's in store for you if you attempt this mode.

The answer to being great is to play, play, and play, never quit playing just play. This game awards u on playing time like no other.

Anyways as far as DM to some of u that go on about dueling, to me I play DM like dueling. I usually still time the belts, armors and UD like its going out of style.

And guys this is my opinion for anyone that wants to start dueling cause I know how it is, we can all tell him/her that we will teach them how to get better but let's don't fool ourselves, most of the time it doesn't happen. I just don't wanna see someone hit the duel rooms to early, get no help and discouraged of it and leave the mode and never return. It happens more then you thank if not leave the game period.

If you need any help in the future add me to your PSN. Its my name on the forum. I'd be glad to help in anyway.
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I think Dueling is cool as $hit and your advice about DM TDM is spot on.
One thing though ... after getting beat 10-0, 10-0, and 10-(-1) in a row by the elites it gets a bit demoralizing.
It would be nice to have  ladders with players closer to your level. An elite ladder, intermediate, and beginner ladder.
 
Have some good matches, that make you want to play more. Once you start beating your peers move yourself up.
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It's probably best to keep on finding people a bit better than you and keep playing those (where you get scores like 10 - 4 a lot).
If you split up a ladder in 3 parts you decrease activity even more.. Not enough people playing for that.
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Also splitting up the ladders will just make the better better and the worst worse imo....
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Originally posted by Drokun

It's probably best to keep on finding people a bit better than you and keep playing those (where you get scores like 10 - 4 a lot).
If you split up a ladder in 3 parts you decrease activity even more.. Not enough people playing for that.
 
Actually I think youd find more more people  trying duel if there was a beginner ladder.
They wouldnt feel so intimidated.
 
Over time as they got better you'd have a far healthier duel scene.
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Originally posted by RemY

Also splitting up the ladders will just make the better better and the worst worse imo....
 
I disagree. Professional sports like baseball have a minor League sysytem so that they can get prospects trained before being "called up to the BIG LEAGUES" as the saying goes.
 
The NFL and NBA have a  college system for that.
 
The intermediate ladder would be a stepping stone to work on your skills and eventually move up.
 
As I said it takes place in sports all the time! MLB is a cla**ic example with the farm system.
 
 
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Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington

Originally posted by RemY

Also splitting up the ladders will just make the better better and the worst worse imo....
 
I disagree. Professional sports like baseball have a minor League sysytem so that they can get prospects trained before being "called up to the BIG LEAGUES" as the saying goes.
 
The NFL and NBA have a  college system for that.
 
The intermediate ladder would be a stepping stone to work on your skills and eventually move up.
 
As I said it takes place in sports all the time! MLB is a cla**ic example with the farm system.
 
 
but this isnt a phsyical sport this sadly if you play someone at ur skill level or below you dont get better  you wont learn ur mistake so u might think ur good until u play someone who knows what they r doing and then ur gunna quickly learn ur mistakes after time of playin that elite player who beat u u will start mastering what you did wrong
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Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington

I think Dueling is cool as $hit and your advice about DM TDM is spot on.
One thing though ... after getting beat 10-0, 10-0, and 10-(-1) in a row by the elites it gets a bit demoralizing.
It would be nice to have  ladders with players closer to your level. An elite ladder, intermediate, and beginner ladder.
 
Have some good matches, that make you want to play more. Once you start beating your peers move yourself up.
 
 
Couldn't agree more about it demoralizing.  Today i played 5 duels in succession and lost all them without getting a single frag.  Got killed about 30 times in total LOL.
all roun nice guy lol.
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Originally posted by Fluffy Fluffington

Originally posted by RemY

Also splitting up the ladders will just make the better better and the worst worse imo....
 
I disagree. Professional sports like baseball have a minor League sysytem so that they can get prospects trained before being "called up to the BIG LEAGUES" as the saying goes.
 
The NFL and NBA have a  college system for that.
 
The intermediate ladder would be a stepping stone to work on your skills and eventually move up.
 
As I said it takes place in sports all the time! MLB is a cla**ic example with the farm system.
 
 

Playing good people = good practice. Restricting bad players to only playing bad players means they will improve, but slowly.

Today I duelled and won about 3 matches out of the 15, can't wait to try again tomorrow.
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I completely agree that you only get better if you play and learn from those better than you.
I cannot argue with that. you are not learning if you are not getting beat. I agree.

However, its a question of degree. For example in an intermediate ladder, not everyone will be equal.
There will some players better than others. The less skilled players will get beat and will eventually get better.
The more skilled intermediate players overtime will graduate and start playing in the elite ladder. at first they'll get beat but they will also get better.

I don't see why Physicality has anything to do with it. In baseball, for example, pro players that are having a rough spell get sent to the minor leagues and many of them get called back to the majors after they work on their weakness, be it hitting or defense.
Also many pro teams will recruit from colleges but they play in the minor league system before they are ready for the pros.

Drokun, true you may have lost all those matches but I bet you the losses were almost all very competitive. not 10-0, 15 times each time! 


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Last 3 matches I had negative scores
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I'd have to agree with Remy that splitting the ladders would only make the better people better and the worse ones worse.  If all you play is intermediate players you'll never get any better so the theory that intermediate will lead to elite doesn't hold water.  All it would do is increase the gap in skill unfortunately. 

One thing that they do on the PC duel ladders is that at the end of the season when they have the tourney instead of a single tourney they break it up into smaller chunks...like 1-8 is the A bracket 9-16 is the B bracket etc.  This way more people get to be involved in a tourney with people at their level.  That I think would work out very well.  Would that be a good middle ground?


@ Fluffy - lol yeah totally man that was crazy...knocked my butt right off that ledge by the belt..LOL!!  I got kicked off PSN about a minute after you so I think maybe they were doin something....but yeah we'll have to hook up again and finish that one!
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