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    Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 3:45pm
^ and thats exactly why geohot along with other hackers believed what he done was not wrong... and that sony over reacted. his only reasoning for jailnbreaking his ps3 what not to steal.. but to create and play his own games... he never signed anything that never allowed him to do that
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Originally posted by Black Panther

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geoHOT may not have violated any "online agreement" but isn't Jailbreak just a way to get stuff without paying? in other words, STEALING.
 
In theory all he did was jailbreak. He never gave consent and signed away his rights. Look at it another way, if you installed linux on the ps3 , it was not illegal. What geo did is the same thing, only his program allows the ps3 to include pirated software. Pirated software he DID NOT promote.
so if this guy broke into your house, used your ps3, used your pc, used your tv, used your gerbils, but didn't steal anything then that would be all right? after all he didn't sign an agreement.
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geoHOT is a smart guy... He knew what he was doing when he made his knowledge public.  He knew that this jailbreak would be used for legitimate means as well as piracy, and also knew this would give him the fame and recognition that he desired...   Anonymous is using geoHot's misfortune as a way of legitimizing, to the public, their illegal actions and hatred towards Sony, etc.
Sony is over reacting in the attempt to deter other hackers from publishing their work /  code.
Also Black Panther should change his name back to Charlie Sheen...
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Originally posted by BAIN

Originally posted by Black Panther

Originally posted by BAIN

geoHOT may not have violated any "online agreement" but isn't Jailbreak just a way to get stuff without paying? in other words, STEALING.
 
In theory all he did was jailbreak. He never gave consent and signed away his rights. Look at it another way, if you installed linux on the ps3 , it was not illegal. What geo did is the same thing, only his program allows the ps3 to include pirated software. Pirated software he DID NOT promote.
so if this guy broke into your house, used your ps3, used your pc, used your tv, used your gerbils, but didn't steal anything then that would be all right? after all he didn't sign an agreement.
 
What he did was not a tort bain, to break and enter into someone's house is a property issue within the law and would be a tort commited against me. The ps3 was his own purchase,  he did not promote nor did he advocate the use of pirated materials. Companies reverse engineer products all the time to make them better and earn market share. In the case of Mr. Geo he simply reverse engineered a PS3 and made it public how he did it. In that sense he made a product better, furthermore, by not signing the online contract with sony he is not bound by said terms within the contract. The only contract he would have would be the one year manufacturer's warranty, which was forfitted upon him tinkering with the innards of the machine and it's software. There was no profit to be made of these actions as well.
 
Now to counter this arguement, if said person used the sony logo to promote what was done or said person promoted the use of piracy I believe this man is not only stupid but very much guilty.
 
Pinakul would be the best person to reply to this thread , he has much more knowledge in litigation than I have and would be the only person on these forums who could predict the outcome of the trial, my above statements are speculations within the law.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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